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Being black..., ...Is no excuse for failing.
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post Jan 30 2007, 04:45 PM
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Listen, I'm not racist. I'm just bringing up a topic that I know is on alot of people's minds.

Everynow and then I see these movies, or whatever...people saying that black people can't get anywhere in life because they are lazy, or because they are black they can't get anywhere in life.

I was sitting infront of Jeremy's house waiting for him to answer his friggin door. I was thinking about Albany(Where I live for the most part) and how it's just run down. Most of the people that live there are black.

I was thinking about how I see all this crap about how black people always say they might as well as just give up and deal with what they got. In movies, or even in real life. It pisses me off because the color of your skin does not affect your brain at all. It's an excuse and not a reason...

...if it was a reason then every black person would be in poverty. Is this not true? And you can't blame it on your environment because there have been many black people who have over come it. So, why do some black people just give up and don't try to succeed?

I know not only black people do it, but I'm just bringing this one up first. I'll talk about white people some other time just to be fair.

Input please. If this is in the wrong forum, just move it. Thank you.
 
 
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post Feb 6 2007, 11:42 AM
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most of the stuff in life is not really about learning but common sense

I'm still not understanding where you think common sense comes from then, if you don't think it's taught/imparted/influenced. If a kid is born into a society where common sense is to walk around naked, then who's to say he's wrong? Do you get what I'm saying when I say common sense isn't innate but influenced by the society occupied?
 
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post Feb 6 2007, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(flaymzofice @ Feb 6 2007, 8:42 AM) *
I'm still not understanding where you think common sense comes from then, if you don't think it's taught/imparted/influenced. If a kid is born into a society where common sense is to walk around naked, then who's to say he's wrong? Do you get what I'm saying when I say common sense isn't innate but influenced by the society occupied?


I understand but I still don't believe that tv or video games or whatever media is the cause for there actions. If anyone is to blame it's the parents for teaching them wrong, not teaching them at all or allowing them to go into the wrong things.
 
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post Feb 7 2007, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 6 2007, 5:30 PM) *
I understand but I still don't believe that tv or video games or whatever media is the cause for there actions. If anyone is to blame it's the parents for teaching them wrong, not teaching them at all or allowing them to go into the wrong things.

The problem with that is saying that you dont believe it to be 'The' cause... well, no. but it may be 'A' cause. There is more than one factor for everything, and while people may not watch The Matrix aor whatever and think 'imm go shoot some people now,' it may affect them subconciously. I refer you to the Jamie Bulger case.
 
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Feb 7 2007, 4:03 AM) *
The problem with that is saying that you dont believe it to be 'The' cause... well, no. but it may be 'A' cause. There is more than one factor for everything, and while people may not watch The Matrix aor whatever and think 'imm go shoot some people now,' it may affect them subconciously. I refer you to the Jamie Bulger case.


Well, look at the Columbine Shooting, in case you haven't heard of it they also believed that something influenced him such as tv or a video game to do what he did but to me I think they were wanting to just feel sorry for him because he was only like 15 years old and he seemed like a perfect kid but they also realized that the way things happend, it had to of been planned for a long time and he should be tried as an adult. So basically what I'm trying to say is that just because the media say it's the cause of his actions or one of the causes doesn't necessarily mean it to be true. I believe that if your old enough to know better such as a 15 year old or 30 year old stuff like that doesn't influence you to act upon it. You have your own mind and people CAN think for themselves. Now, if you grew up living with people that taught you to be that way then okay I understand but were talking about video games/movies promoting violence in general. If the person grew up on violence then okay but still when they get older most of the time they tend to steer away from that because they do have there own lives and there own brains...such as the columbine shooting the boy came from a good home, very loving friends and seemed happy but he snapped..they believed after it was all over and done with that his influence to kill was because of being bullied at school.
 

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JakeKKing   Being black...   Jan 30 2007, 04:45 PM
xMyStIcShAd0wSx   Stereotypes and racism. Black people are no diffe...   Jan 30 2007, 05:02 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xMyStIcShAd0wSx @ Jan 30 2007, 5:02...   Jan 30 2007, 06:08 PM
xMyStIcShAd0wSx   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 30 2007, 6:08 PM) I...   Jan 30 2007, 11:04 PM
Uronacid   *sigh* I don't know... I live in Schenectady ...   Jan 30 2007, 05:59 PM
mandilynne   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 5:59 PM) *s...   Feb 7 2007, 04:10 AM
flaymzofice   ^ naturally otherwise where would such tellings fi...   Jan 30 2007, 06:53 PM
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