Being black..., ...Is no excuse for failing. Options

[Kontroll]

Listen, I'm not racist. I'm just bringing up a topic that I know is on alot of people's minds.

Everynow and then I see these movies, or whatever...people saying that black people can't get anywhere in life because they are lazy, or because they are black they can't get anywhere in life.

I was sitting infront of Jeremy's house waiting for him to answer his friggin door. I was thinking about Albany(Where I live for the most part) and how it's just run down. Most of the people that live there are black.

I was thinking about how I see all this crap about how black people always say they might as well as just give up and deal with what they got. In movies, or even in real life. It pisses me off because the color of your skin does not affect your brain at all. It's an excuse and not a reason...

...if it was a reason then every black person would be in poverty. Is this not true? And you can't blame it on your environment because there have been many black people who have over come it. So, why do some black people just give up and don't try to succeed?

I know not only black people do it, but I'm just bringing this one up first. I'll talk about white people some other time just to be fair.

Input please. If this is in the wrong forum, just move it. Thank you.

[bat19]

white trash is just as offensive as saying nigger or chink.

Why? Why are any words deemed offensive? They're just words. Sticks and stones...you know the rest. If we're to ever rid ourselves of rascism, we have to stop being so f**kin sensitive to simple ignorant words. And what is deemed allowance to the seperate races? Here's my view and please correct me if I'm wrong:

Chinese and Indian - Cannot say anything, not even Towelhead or Chink

Caucasian - Are only allowed to say Honky, though I don't think white people are really disturbed by that word. Change it to slave owner or Aryans and you might get somewhere.

Spanish - Seeing as how there are two main types of Spanish people, I'll change this into subgroups.
Mexicans - Are allowed to say Spic to eachother, no one else. Thay also hate Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans - Cannot say Spic, but for some reason can say Nigga. They also hate Mexicans.

African American - Can say anything under the sun without it being socially unacceptable. Can say Nigga, Honky, Chink, Towelhead, Spic, and anything else they can think of.

Michael Richards as some of you may know apparently "flipped out" on stage when he started saying nigger repeatedly. Now of course he was wrong in doing this. But then a man named Paul Mooney went on CNN and began to say how Michael Richards should be locked up and how it had offended him so much. This was a man that played the character Negrodamus on the Chappelle's Show, used the word nigger for almost every word in his standup special and made fun of his own people on a regular basis. Here is a small quote.

Arsenio Hall will have another show. It will be called "Good Morning Black America." It will air at noon throughout the country.

It didn't only stop at Black people. He makes fun of all the races. I would like to understand how this is acceptable for a Black man and not a White man. Even Carlos Mencia who does racial jokes of all races every episode is accepted, yet if someone like Dane Cook or Jim Gaffigan went on stage and did a joke about the blacks or the spanish, they'd be blackballed from every show they ever tried to do and would become social outcasts. It would be displayed all over the media until every person in America knows about it. I find this unacceptable. If you really want to end rascism, stop being so sensitive to stupid words and jokes. Laugh at how ignorant the person making them really is and try to show them how wrong they are on a daily basis. Do not fall into the stereotype, unless it's a positive stereotype like the person with glasses is smart or(and I mean no offense), the Jew is good with money. Well, that's all I have to say.

It's not what you say but how you say it. A lot of the points you brought are things that I've been rambling about for years.

Viacomm perpetuates negative stereotypes through their media outlets (BET, MTV, VH1, recently, Comedy Central, etc).

Parents need to raise their children instead of doing a shitty job ob being half-assed providers.

Personal respsonsibility. Hiphop isn't all about what you see on TV and hear on the radio. However, thats what sells. Record companies exploit that and sell it to the ignorant masses. Just take Common's 'Be' versus Mikes Jones' 'Who Is Mike Jones?' It makes no sense why Common's album is placed on the backburner and ignored.

Whatever the case, we're beating a dead horse because people are stuck in their own misconceived ignorance. It would take a genocide to change things as quickly as they should.

*ponders going to the armory

I agree with you dude. I should have stressed the fact that I was talking about gangster rap. Gangster rap and hip hop is different. There's a guy who makes a song saying how the drugs have ruined the neighborhood vs a guy who makes a song promoting drug use in the neighborhood. I am sick of gangster rap artists and shitty one thought rock groups who promote violence and drug use because they lack the talent to actually create something worthwhile and thought provoking. That's what I was getting at. I do believe that when a person, and it doesn't matter what race he is, listens to these kinds of songs, it influeces(though does not force) them to do drugs and react violently because they see it as acceptable. It is unfortunate for the parent who promotes this type of behavior, but the blame cannot always be put on the parent for not being attentive 100% of the time. People go to work, people have bills to pay, people cannot spend their entire day looking over their child's shoulder trying to see what they are doing because not only does it not work, but it creates a rebellious wanting in the child themselves. You cannot blame only the parents, but they contribute. You cannot blame only the media, though they contribute. You cannot blame only the society, though they contribute.
Imagine a 3 circle venn diagram with the circles being society, media, and upbringing, and the space they all occupy being the person. They all contribute to creating the whole, but cannot be individually held responsible for the actions a person commits. In the end, the person has to be held responsible for their actions, but that does not mean they were not influenced.