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Being black..., ...Is no excuse for failing.
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post Jan 30 2007, 04:45 PM
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Listen, I'm not racist. I'm just bringing up a topic that I know is on alot of people's minds.

Everynow and then I see these movies, or whatever...people saying that black people can't get anywhere in life because they are lazy, or because they are black they can't get anywhere in life.

I was sitting infront of Jeremy's house waiting for him to answer his friggin door. I was thinking about Albany(Where I live for the most part) and how it's just run down. Most of the people that live there are black.

I was thinking about how I see all this crap about how black people always say they might as well as just give up and deal with what they got. In movies, or even in real life. It pisses me off because the color of your skin does not affect your brain at all. It's an excuse and not a reason...

...if it was a reason then every black person would be in poverty. Is this not true? And you can't blame it on your environment because there have been many black people who have over come it. So, why do some black people just give up and don't try to succeed?

I know not only black people do it, but I'm just bringing this one up first. I'll talk about white people some other time just to be fair.

Input please. If this is in the wrong forum, just move it. Thank you.
 
 
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post Feb 4 2007, 09:45 PM
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Well its all parents fault, if parents are not there kids are taught by the media. But is it really fair to blame only rap music shows your point of veiw towards its listeners huh?I listen to rap but too bad for you im too smart to be sucked into the messages it throws at me. I may dress a little urban but im succeding in life. Can i really blame "50 cent" for everything i do wrong in life? Seems like the people that say that really need some proffesional help. Cant you not blame paris hilton for influencing all the young white girls to party away thier lives? Sure you can but its not her fault. If parents are not around media raises the child its true that the media affects them but schooling is also a key factor, but if ur coming from a good home and you are going out doing stupid things then i guess you are just rebellious? But to only pick out one particular factor in explaining a persons situation in life is a little bias.

There is this documentary of homeless people of how they refuse to get a job because they know that people would be there to give them food and clothe them, why would anyone ask anything more free food and clothing no work?AWESOME!!!! sometimes its our fault too but ofcourse theres the mother of 6 trying to work hard that really needs the help but then theres the guy that leeches off everyone else cuz he can. How many of you got a job on your own w/o your parents forcing you to get one(well whos parents want them NOT to focus on schoolwork lol like mine)?
 
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post Feb 5 2007, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(black_heart @ Feb 4 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Well its all parents fault, if parents are not there kids are taught by the media. But is it really fair to blame only rap music shows your point of veiw towards its listeners huh?I listen to rap but too bad for you im too smart to be sucked into the messages it throws at me. I may dress a little urban but im succeding in life. Can i really blame "50 cent" for everything i do wrong in life? Seems like the people that say that really need some proffesional help. Cant you not blame paris hilton for influencing all the young white girls to party away thier lives? Sure you can but its not her fault. If parents are not around media raises the child its true that the media affects them but schooling is also a key factor, but if ur coming from a good home and you are going out doing stupid things then i guess you are just rebellious? But to only pick out one particular factor in explaining a persons situation in life is a little bias.

Okay, again, I will repeat myself. I did not mean to convey that all gang violence and drug use is the direct fault of Rap music. But it's true that this does play a major factor and you're an idiot if you think otherwise because it's not a point of view, but a fact. There are barely any rap songs nowadays that do not say nigger gratuitously and constantly talk about smoking weed, doing drugs and f**kin bitches then throwin them away. And again, I will repeat that it's not always rap music because rock music does the same thing, though not to the wide mass of audience that rap music influences. I was merely replying to Jake's comment about an observation of my neighborhood.
Sure you can blame the parent's. Parent's these days days range from age 12 on. If you think I'm exaggerating or talking from things I've heard or seen on tv, I live in Albany, NY in a neighborhood overrun with gangsters, crackheads, homeless people, and welfare babies. I work in a mall at a job where I have to talk to people constantly and I observe the way these people act in public, how they dress and talk and think. I refrain from asking gangster guys who wear baggy clothes that have Al Pacino's Scarface image and have more gold on them than Fort Knox with a semi-skinny little white girl wearing tight pants with the belly fat rolling over them holding a baby that won't stop crying or watching as their hellspawn runs rampant and undisciplined because these type of people never have anything to say and actually become aggrivated because I'm asking them to think about something. And all I do is show f**kin movie previews? But back to the parents being at fault. If the parents are like these people who couldn't care less what their child is doing and wear their child's criminal record as a badge of pride around the neighborhood, than yes, these people are at fault. This is also why I believe abortion should be legal and mandatory in some cases. But parents who take a general interest in what their children do cannot be blamed all the time for not controlling what their child is introduced to. Like it or not everything we take in, be it a visual or audible medium, influences us in some way. The music I was talking about can be heard anywhere on most radio stations. You cannot always control what someone listens to. A twelve year old girl hears a pussycat dolls song talking about how some guy she's with won't f**k her though she's trying very hard and is influenced by it. And BET is nothing but a softcore porn channel. You can put child locks on your television, but these images are still available on many entertainment magazines in the Supermarket. Whatever, I tend to write a lot in general but this idea that the parent's are always at fault is ridiculous and stupid. Who among us didnt hide some of the things we watched and did from our parents. I remeber I rented the South Park movie and watched it about ten times and my mom never knew a thing because I knew how to hide it. But I don't blame her for not knowing, and I'm not gonna say that the idea just popped in my head. I was influenced by television which was saying that it was a hilarious joyride of a movie and by friends who had seen it and talked about it constantly. I was directly influenced by media and society, if not for one of them I probably wouldn't have watched it to begin with. I probably wouldn't have cared.
Allright, I've written enough. My point is that the parents are not always at fault, though there are many instances where the parent is directly at fault. People are influenced by society and the media and choose to live this way. People could become better if they wanted to, but it is so much easier to live as a degenerate than as a normal, contributing member of society. Black people, White people, Asian, Spanish, and Indian people, I call for you to unite and dispose of these miscreants in the only way they deserve...

ELIMINATE THEM
 

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JakeKKing   Being black...   Jan 30 2007, 04:45 PM
xMyStIcShAd0wSx   Stereotypes and racism. Black people are no diffe...   Jan 30 2007, 05:02 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xMyStIcShAd0wSx @ Jan 30 2007, 5:02...   Jan 30 2007, 06:08 PM
xMyStIcShAd0wSx   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 30 2007, 6:08 PM) I...   Jan 30 2007, 11:04 PM
Uronacid   *sigh* I don't know... I live in Schenectady ...   Jan 30 2007, 05:59 PM
mandilynne   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 5:59 PM) *s...   Feb 7 2007, 04:10 AM
flaymzofice   ^ naturally otherwise where would such tellings fi...   Jan 30 2007, 06:53 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(flaymzofice @ Jan 30 2007, 6:53 PM)...   Jan 31 2007, 01:45 AM
mango.peach   well, in a way, i definitely agree with you and in...   Jan 30 2007, 07:25 PM
Uronacid   As I'm reading this, an add for MaMa Lotion is...   Jan 30 2007, 09:53 PM
mishyerr   Well, OF COURSE black people don't fail becaus...   Jan 30 2007, 10:12 PM
BrandonSaunders   I'll take this as my cue to leave my rather br...   Jan 31 2007, 02:55 AM
flaymzofice   ^ agree. That's what I was getting at...less s...   Jan 31 2007, 06:18 AM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   I haven't thoroughly read everything throughou...   Jan 31 2007, 07:33 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   Well, it doesn't help that so many of these ig...   Jan 31 2007, 08:05 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jan 31 2...   Jan 31 2007, 08:16 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jan 31 2...   Jan 31 2007, 08:17 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jan 31 2...   Jan 31 2007, 10:17 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jan 31 2007, 10:1...   Feb 1 2007, 12:24 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 31 2007, 11:24 PM) ...   Feb 1 2007, 05:08 PM
krnxswat   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 1 2007, 5:08 ...   Feb 7 2007, 09:56 AM
The Abominable C-Pillar   QUOTE(krnxswat @ Feb 7 2007, 10:56 AM) Du...   Feb 7 2007, 10:34 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Feb 7 20...   Feb 7 2007, 02:36 PM
KCreateBlog   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jan 31 2...   Feb 1 2007, 01:04 AM
turntabletux   why you hatin' on me son....kidding. I agree. ...   Jan 31 2007, 08:32 PM
flaymzofice   Despite the somewhat incoherent form of his argume...   Feb 1 2007, 12:38 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   Lets get something straight, okay. I'm not say...   Feb 1 2007, 02:55 PM
flaymzofice   ^ I think Brandon was simply referring to the curs...   Feb 1 2007, 03:12 PM
Heath21   Well, in my own opinion, I don't think movies ...   Feb 1 2007, 05:00 PM
flaymzofice   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 1 2007, 10:00 PM) Wel...   Feb 1 2007, 08:02 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(flaymzofice @ Feb 1 2007, 5:02 PM) ...   Feb 5 2007, 12:50 AM
black_heart   Well its all parents fault, if parents are not the...   Feb 4 2007, 09:45 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(black_heart @ Feb 4 2007, 9:45 PM) ...   Feb 5 2007, 02:15 AM
The Abominable C-Pillar   QUOTE(black_heart @ Feb 4 2007, 10:45 PM)...   Feb 5 2007, 10:51 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Feb 5 20...   Feb 6 2007, 07:27 PM
flaymzofice   Yes, parents play a big role in guiding a child do...   Feb 5 2007, 09:38 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(flaymzofice @ Feb 5 2007, 6:38 AM) ...   Feb 5 2007, 03:04 PM
black_heart   If you cant blame the parents then you cant blame ...   Feb 5 2007, 07:05 PM
flaymzofice   QUOTEPeople know right from wrong and they can con...   Feb 6 2007, 11:42 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(flaymzofice @ Feb 6 2007, 8:42 AM) ...   Feb 6 2007, 12:30 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 6 2007, 5:30 PM) I un...   Feb 7 2007, 07:03 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Feb 7 2007, 4:03 AM) T...   Feb 7 2007, 02:44 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 7 2007, 7:44 PM) Well...   Feb 7 2007, 02:54 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Feb 7 2007, 11:54 AM) ...   Feb 7 2007, 03:36 PM
black_heart   i agree with brandon =D.   Feb 6 2007, 08:16 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   QUOTE(mandilynne @ Feb 7 2007, 5:10 AM) w...   Feb 7 2007, 08:52 AM
I Shot JFK   Jeremy, please dont double post. Use the edit or m...   Feb 7 2007, 09:53 AM
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I Shot JFK   Seon Ho, Jeremy, cut it now. Josh, no need to comm...   Feb 7 2007, 02:43 PM
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I Shot JFK   ^ You did not HAVE to say anything whatsoever, and...   Feb 7 2007, 03:06 PM
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Intercourse.   Awe Suzzette, when it comes to the whatever c-pill...   Feb 7 2007, 11:12 PM
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