Being black..., ...Is no excuse for failing. Options

[Kontroll]

Listen, I'm not racist. I'm just bringing up a topic that I know is on alot of people's minds.

Everynow and then I see these movies, or whatever...people saying that black people can't get anywhere in life because they are lazy, or because they are black they can't get anywhere in life.

I was sitting infront of Jeremy's house waiting for him to answer his friggin door. I was thinking about Albany(Where I live for the most part) and how it's just run down. Most of the people that live there are black.

I was thinking about how I see all this crap about how black people always say they might as well as just give up and deal with what they got. In movies, or even in real life. It pisses me off because the color of your skin does not affect your brain at all. It's an excuse and not a reason...

...if it was a reason then every black person would be in poverty. Is this not true? And you can't blame it on your environment because there have been many black people who have over come it. So, why do some black people just give up and don't try to succeed?

I know not only black people do it, but I'm just bringing this one up first. I'll talk about white people some other time just to be fair.

Input please. If this is in the wrong forum, just move it. Thank you.

[sweetangel2128]

Well, in my own opinion, I don't think movies or music have anything to do with the violence committed nor do violent video games. People have there own minds on what they think is right and wrong, they know there in the wrong and they make there own mistakes and they influence themselves.

[flaymzofice]

Well, in my own opinion, I don't think movies or music have anything to do with the violence committed nor do violent video games. People have there own minds on what they think is right and wrong, they know there in the wrong and they make there own mistakes and they influence themselves.

And where exactly do you think people's opinions on what constitutes rights and wrongs, come from? Surely you can't suggest people are born with an innate ability to differentiate? If this were true, why do children require parents to teach it is wrong to steal? To hit another kid in the playground? People are not born naturally resourceful; they do not find within themselves the governance of morals; that is influenced by the environment so media does play a role in the definition of one's morals/decisions.

[sweetangel2128]

And where exactly do you think people's opinions on what constitutes rights and wrongs, come from? Surely you can't suggest people are born with an innate ability to differentiate? If this were true, why do children require parents to teach it is wrong to steal? To hit another kid in the playground? People are not born naturally resourceful; they do not find within themselves the governance of morals; that is influenced by the environment so media does play a role in the definition of one's morals/decisions.

I just don't believe this stuff promotes violence. Maybe other kids on the play ground yes but were talking about music and movies..things that are NOT real. Plus, you say what do I think promotes it? Some people just have sick minds...not sure if you heard of this or not..but did you hear about the columbine shooting? I don't think that person was forced to do all that killing just because of a stupid video game. People have there own minds and think for themselves..it's like your saying - "Oh, I became a sex offender because my father was one"...NO...you can't use that as an excuse, you are your own person.

Well its all parents fault, if parents are not there kids are taught by the media. But is it really fair to blame only rap music shows your point of veiw towards its listeners huh?I listen to rap but too bad for you im too smart to be sucked into the messages it throws at me. I may dress a little urban but im succeding in life. Can i really blame "50 cent" for everything i do wrong in life? Seems like the people that say that really need some proffesional help. Cant you not blame paris hilton for influencing all the young white girls to party away thier lives? Sure you can but its not her fault. If parents are not around media raises the child its true that the media affects them but schooling is also a key factor, but if ur coming from a good home and you are going out doing stupid things then i guess you are just rebellious? But to only pick out one particular factor in explaining a persons situation in life is a little bias.

I agree. I believe it is the parents but I also believe that you can think for yourself and most of the stuff in life is not really about learning but common sense.