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Can you prove that the Bible is authentic? That there's truely no Contradictions, If there even 1 contradiction, the Bible is not authentic.
illriginal
post Sep 5 2006, 04:39 PM
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Can you guys prove these contradictions to be false? Here's your challenge, prove to me and everyone else that the Bible is not false and misleading to the truth of God and his prophets.


Here's your big resource of Biblical contradictions:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
 
 
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post Jan 23 2007, 06:46 AM
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From Heath21:
Go to - "http://www.myspace.com/sweetangel2128" and visit my blog entitled - "bible contradictions". It has a whole list of them for ya.


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How can the Bible be full of facts when thousands of verses in the Bible contradict themselves...read some of the verses in my blog and look them up in your Bible, you will find I am right on a lot of them

Okay, I'm hooked. I've got to admit that I'm completely intrigued: Why would you bother reading something you consider to have so many contradictions and use it to determine whether or not you're a good person ? Honestly, why even worry that your friend was saying that you were sinning by having premarital relations when you most likely think that the Bible was simply authored by men ?

What do you specifically believe about the Bible ? Do you just like the stories for some reason ?

As for your list of contradictions: Please identify the 3 "biggest" contradictions on your blog so we can discuss them. What's interesting is that you even admit that you're "right on a lot of them". If you even recognize that the others are not contradictions, why have them ?
 
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post Jan 23 2007, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 23 2007, 3:46 AM) *
Okay, I'm hooked. I've got to admit that I'm completely intrigued: Why would you bother reading something you consider to have so many contradictions and use it to determine whether or not you're a good person ? Honestly, why even worry that your friend was saying that you were sinning by having premarital relations when you most likely think that the Bible was simply authored by men ?

What do you specifically believe about the Bible ? Do you just like the stories for some reason ?

As for your list of contradictions: Please identify the 3 "biggest" contradictions on your blog so we can discuss them. What's interesting is that you even admit that you're "right on a lot of them". If you even recognize that the others are not contradictions, why have them ?


First of all, I just recently found out about the contradictions, I've been or was a Christian for almost 2 years without knowing because I was told it didn't contradict when in actuality it does wacko.gif

And I never said that it was authored by men but "people"...people did write the Bible and we have no clue in knowing whether or not the stories are real because those men are not here today to ask them.

What do I believe about the Bible? Did I just read the stories? Like I stated above, I just recently found out about the contradictions and it is very rude for someone like you to assume that I only read the Bible for the interesting stories...just so freakin' rude. Anways...before I knew of the contradictions I believed in all of the Bible that I have read and heard about until I found out about the contradictions and the fact that we are to not have premarital sex, saying gays are sinning and the fact that you are to not mix with an un-believer...3 things I feel strongly about.

Ok as for the verses, I'll be gladly to show them to you or read them to you. Here ya go: (when your done reading them, look it up in the Bible to verify it, you will find it is there):

1. John 10:30 - "I and my Father are one."
2. John 14:28 - "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father; for my Father is greater than I".

3. Isaiah 14:21 - "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
4. Deutromy 24:16 - "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

5. Numbers 12:3 - (the one I found for this one was a really off but when I looked it up it says that Moses was a humble man but in another verse it talks of him killing).
6. Numbers 31:14, 17, 18.

7. Acts 1:18 - "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."
8. Matthew 27:5-7 - "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."

Heres a few to think about and my views on the verses (sorry if they are not EXACTLY worded right but if you read them in the Bible closley it means the EXACT same thing):

1/2. I believe this one is contradicting because one he's saying that he and the Father are one but in a different section it says the Father is greater than he....so how can he be both and what exactly is he?

3/4. Basically, this one is contradicting because it's saying that he will not kill anyone accept the people that brought on the sin int he first place, but not he son and daughters but yet he says in a different verses that the sons and daughters will be killed for sinning but the parents of the sinners will not. ?????

5/6. Just like I stated, it says in one verse that Moses was a very humble man but later on in a different verse it talks of his anger and how he killed people.

7/8. It talks of 2 different ways that he died..so which is it? Hanging or his instestines/guts bursting out? It surely can't be both.

Go ahead and try to argue these points but I guarentee you wont succeed because I looked these up in MY Bible and it says pretty much the same exact thing so the Bible is contradicting.




QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 23 2007, 6:48 AM) *
PS, it's easy to post a link of debunked contradictions too.


It may be easy but if you've noticed he listed the exact verses and areas they are in as did I...so if you go look it up and it says nothing like that of course it's fake but if you look it up and it says that then obviously neither one of us was lying or making things up. Most people think that posting links isn't good proof cause anyone can write anything but they seem to forget that most people put the verses where it can be found so to prove it just look up the verse they stated...theres your proof. If you don't have a Bible go to:

http://www.biblegateway.com

That website gives you the ability to look up certain scriptures in the Bible and what book you want to look it up in.

Just so you guys know my Bible is a New Living Translation one.
 

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Tamacracker   Can you prove that the Bible is authentic? That there's truely no Contradictions   Sep 5 2006, 04:39 PM
Tamacracker   http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim...radic...   Sep 5 2006, 05:02 PM
HearrrtBreakerrr   that site has has a lot of crap on it, the person ...   Sep 10 2006, 08:45 AM
Zatanna   Per request, this is being re-opened. However, le...   Sep 10 2006, 09:03 AM
kryogenix   Tamacracker, use the following website to find wee...   Sep 10 2006, 09:36 AM
Born in a burial gown   *Sigh*. What do you have against Christianism? You...   Sep 10 2006, 12:55 PM
funk.this   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 10 2006, 12...   Sep 27 2006, 03:58 PM
one_and_only   is that the definition of authentic?   Sep 10 2006, 05:36 PM
JakeKKing   Islam, eh? Well, if you look at the Christian Bibl...   Sep 17 2006, 12:40 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 17 2006, 1:40 AM) I...   Sep 17 2006, 10:28 AM
Born in a burial gown   ^ Didn't you have more than 988 posts or am I ...   Sep 17 2006, 10:34 AM
Angelina Taylor   You're dreaming.. I have 991, I think :P   Sep 17 2006, 11:22 AM
Born in a burial gown   It was 988 when I posted that. Oh well, I thought ...   Sep 17 2006, 11:55 AM
BonneVache   Tamacracker, you kind of just hop around the forms...   Sep 17 2006, 02:08 PM
vitaC   I have a question about the Bible. but firstly let...   Sep 26 2006, 06:13 AM
wind&fire   QUOTE(vitaC @ Sep 26 2006, 9:13 PM) I hav...   Sep 26 2006, 08:50 PM
funk.this   QUOTE(vitaC @ Sep 26 2006, 6:13 AM) I hav...   Sep 27 2006, 07:22 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(funk.this @ Sep 27 2006, 8:22 PM) I...   Sep 27 2006, 08:53 PM
Angelina Taylor   ^ Thank you.   Sep 26 2006, 08:40 PM
vitaC   Yet, if the author of one book, for example the go...   Sep 27 2006, 10:09 AM
jordan.   Not again Okay, I read through those sites and ...   Sep 27 2006, 10:22 AM
Shahin   QUOTE(jordan. @ Sep 27 2006, 8:22 AM) Li...   Sep 27 2006, 05:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(funk.this @ Sep 27 2006, 3:58 PM) 4...   Sep 27 2006, 10:58 PM
andy...   QUOTEThe Bible has over 6,000 manuscripts. The cha...   Oct 1 2006, 02:56 AM
mishyerr   QUOTEI know theres no convincing some of you who a...   Jan 28 2007, 11:06 PM
Angelina Taylor   Hmmmm, I'm curious as to why in Noah's Ark...   Oct 3 2006, 07:35 AM
icy_wonderland   This is probably off topic. But I've always t...   Oct 3 2006, 07:56 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(icy_wonderland @ Oct 3 2006, 8:56 A...   Oct 3 2006, 07:09 PM
chasingvictory   i assume that you are muslim.. that website: http:...   Oct 3 2006, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing   Who cares anymore. No one on this forum is smart e...   Oct 5 2006, 05:23 PM
Dustin.   ok, about the inconsistencie, (i spelled that sooo...   Oct 7 2006, 01:52 AM
Spirited Away   ^ I'm glad someone think so. I've heard so...   Oct 7 2006, 09:30 AM
Lil_Cloud   Can you prove the Qur'an has absolutely no fau...   Oct 19 2006, 07:34 PM
vash1530   ^no one can justify faith...dur   Oct 20 2006, 08:47 AM
Lil_Cloud   ^ The authentity of the Bible, I meant... if he c...   Oct 21 2006, 04:35 PM
QueenAkasha   Hmm.. I read this book, once. About contradictions...   Oct 25 2006, 02:42 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(QueenAkasha @ Oct 25 2006, 3:42 PM)...   Oct 28 2006, 09:48 PM
iRock cB   ^ As would I. QUOTE(QueenAkasha @ Oct 25 2006...   Oct 28 2006, 09:53 PM
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Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Nov 6 2006, 7:32 ...   Nov 6 2006, 08:44 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 6 2006, 8:44...   Nov 18 2006, 05:14 PM
quinntastic   People always argue this point about the Bible hav...   Nov 18 2006, 05:05 PM
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Angelina Taylor   It's funny; the smartest people I know are mos...   Nov 22 2006, 09:46 AM
ScottD   Unfortunately, your logic's a bit flawed: The ...   Dec 1 2006, 02:03 PM
SixChamberedHeart   QUOTE(ScottD @ Dec 1 2006, 11:03 AM) THE ...   Dec 17 2006, 07:50 PM
splitnightsky   I guess we are taking this as "is the Bible ...   Dec 1 2006, 02:29 PM
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ScottD   QUOTEFrom Heath21: Go to - "http://www.myspac...   Jan 23 2007, 06:46 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 23 2007, 3:46 AM) Okay...   Jan 23 2007, 04:53 PM
kryogenix   PS, it's easy to post a link of debunked contr...   Jan 23 2007, 09:48 AM
ScottD   QUOTEAnd I never said that it was authored by men ...   Jan 24 2007, 10:19 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 24 2007, 7:19 AM) I wo...   Jan 24 2007, 02:37 PM
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ScottD   mishyerr, "Amen" is usually meant as a ...   Jan 29 2007, 11:09 AM
mishyerr   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 29 2007, 12:09 PM) mis...   Jan 29 2007, 05:31 PM
ScottD   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Jan 29 2007, 5:31 PM) Ac...   Jan 30 2007, 06:26 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 30 2007, 6:26 AM) Good...   Jan 30 2007, 10:03 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 11:03 PM) I...   Jan 30 2007, 10:10 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 10:03 PM) I...   Jan 31 2007, 01:49 AM
ScottD   QUOTEFrom Uronacid: I think she believes that, now...   Jan 31 2007, 06:29 AM
mishyerr   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 31 2007, 7:29 AM) As o...   Jan 31 2007, 08:24 PM
Heath21   Well, I think everyone has there own way of interp...   Jan 31 2007, 04:45 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Jan 31 2007, 4:45 PM) Wel...   Jan 31 2007, 07:06 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 31 2007, 4:06 PM) I...   Feb 1 2007, 12:47 AM
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ScottD   QUOTEFrom Heath21: That's what I always believ...   Feb 1 2007, 02:59 PM
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