gay and christian, can it happen? Options

[Juris Khan]

can someone be christian, really christian, follow christ and everything, and be gay? can you be a gay person (and i am targeting specifically guys in this thread) and still follow christ with all your heart, mind, and soul? Because the bible says that sexual impurity is wrong...but...iunno, it's a line...but i know so many people who are christians and follow christ with all they are, but struggle so hard with their homosexual feelings....

let's hear it...

[tropicalchic]

You can't choose to be gay, some people are and can not help it.

If god made you gay, then why would your choice in relationships make them a sinner?

[Juris Khan]

You can't choose to be gay, some people are and can not help it.

If god made you gay, then why would your choice in relationships make them a sinner?

God doesnt make people gay. please dont take this wrong way, but to be gay would be an imperfection. and God does NOT make things imperfect. He is perfection and so everything he creates is initially perfect. so, to be gay would have to be a choice...because it is such a 'taboo' thing, and especially people who have this conflict of faith, and because we are dealing with lucifer, who is the Tempter, who was God's highest angel, and who is very powerful, it can feel like it's not a choice, like you were born that way. but it is a choice. and God does say in both the old and new testaments that sexual immorality is wrong. homosexuality is specifically mentioned in the old testament story of Lot(i dont know the reference, sorry.) so, it is a choice. now, i am not saying that if you are gay, you cannot enter the Kingdom of God, but what i am saying is that when you stand before God, i should think that he would be disappointed. because even if you do not have gay sex, when you look at others of the same sex and fantasize about them, that is lust, and lust is a sin. in fact, jesus says that one who lusts has committed adultery in his/her heart(again, i dont know the reference, but i'm pretty sure it's in Matthew). So to sum up everything i said, God's creations are initially perfect; homosexuality is a sin; therefore it is a choice to be gay; i believe you will get into heaven if you are gay, including acting on it, although God may be disappointed in you. and i think that that pretty much covers it.

[pedophile]

please dont take this wrong way, but to be gay would be an imperfection. and God does NOT make things imperfect. He is perfection and so everything he creates is initially perfect. so, to be gay would have to be a choice...because it is such a 'taboo' thing, and especially people who have this conflict of faith, and because we are dealing with lucifer, who is the Tempter, who was God's highest angel, and who is very powerful, it can feel like it's not a choice, like you were born that way.

So if someone were to be born w/ two heads, that would be considered perfect? I don't think anyone is born perfect. THAT is what makes somebody human. Everyone is born w/ flaws. & how would you know that it's a choice? Are YOU gay?

because even if you do not have gay sex, when you look at others of the same sex and fantasize about them, that is lust, and lust is a sin. in fact, jesus says that one who lusts has committed adultery in his/her heart(again, i dont know the reference, but i'm pretty sure it's in Matthew).

Excuse me, but WHAT PERSON DOESN'T FANTASIZE ABOUT PEOPLE? Whether it'd be a straight person fantasizing about bondage or a gay person fantasizing about gay sex, or about a straight person fantasizing about gay sex, we still fantasize.
&YES, lust is a sin, but so is gluttony, greed, etc.

Gay sex is what's prohibited. Being gay by itself and not having sex is not a sin.

I agree.