Christians?, with all these post, are there any christians here? Options

[Juris Khan]

is anybody here a Christian, and if so, do you really believe and follow Christ, because with all these posts about having sex and whatnot, it doesn't necessarily sound like it...but i don't want to be judgmental and say that you're not...

[bat19]

Hmm. I guess what I said really disturbed some people. This was never my intention. I was trying to make people laugh and succeeded so far as that me, Josh, and Jake laughed quite a good deal. If anyone had a real problem with what I said, I'll break it down for you as best as possible.

First, when I said I'm not a christian though I do believe in God, that was a flat out lie. I do not have any belief whatsoever in any shape or form of Deity. Is it possible that people have souls? Maybe. Will I say that I am 100% completely sure that there is not a God, no. But the fact is that I do not believe in one just as much as you do believe there is one. What I believe is that the Bible is a book of stories meant to teach us morality and honor and values. But it wasn't meant to be taken to the extreme it has been for the past few thousand years. The story of the boy who cried wolf tells us not to lie or else someday when something really bad happens, no one will believe us. Yet do I think that story is talking about a specific boy who cried wolf to the villagers and was disbelieved so was in turn killed by the wolf? Absolutely not, that is stupid. Same can go for the story of Hansel and Grettel and the Woman in the Shoe, they're just stories people!! Not meant to be taken literally or followed to the point where we kill those who dare not believe what we do.

Secondly, no one knows if Jesus was Black, white, chinese, Indian, or Oompa Loompa, so just drop that goddamn debate already. If you believe in him so blindly, it shouldn't matter what race he is as long as he does exist.

Now onto Jesus throwing dead puppies at people, ....um....I just thought the image was really funny. Well, funny in that it's just so twisted that it's funny. Especially when God comes down and encourages him. I mean, it is the Apocalypse, Judgement Day and by historical standard there is not a person alive today who is truly worthy of heaven.

Now for Emo Satan who hates everything, that is my only explanation for how Emo culture has possibly been able to flourish. I've got news for every Emo kid out there. I know that you hate people who conform to the popular idea but you know what, that's exactly what your doing. Go cry into the mirror and say how your parents who work their asses off day and night to pay for all your black makeup never pay any attention to you while your in your room all day long with the lights off writing depressing poetry. WHY THE HELL SHOULD THEY!!!!!

Now for the person who said I'm an agnostic, No. I'm am not. But do I go around saying that God is retarded and people who believe in him are too. No, I do not. To tell a joke about something doesn't necessarily mean I'm trying to be "rude and obnoxious." As previously stated, I was trying to make my friends laugh. If you took it the wrong way, tough. I grew up with people forcing religion down my throat. I am being completely serious when I tell you that I went to a Christianity Boot Camp till I was 13.

In a perfect world, all parents will raise their children with good values and morales and then at the age where they are actually able to make a decision for their lives, introduce religion to them. But not only their religion, all religions. Let the person choose which religion works best for them. If you don't approve, tough. It should not be the parent's who decide what their children's belief structure is.

I can see that I've gone off on a bit of a rant. I'll close it by saying don't live your life adhering strictly to the rules of religion because chances are that there is no god or your religion happens to be the wrong religion and you get sent down to Hades or something. Try to open your mind and see how the other half lives. Believe in the fact that we are all alive and our lives are to short to be wasted, sacrificed, or taken because of different faiths.

P.S. Why do Christians who believe they are going to Heaven always tell me they'll see me in Hell? Wouldn't they rather not see me at all?

[Juris Khan]

Secondly, no one knows if Jesus was Black, white, chinese, Indian, or Oompa Loompa, so just drop that goddamn debate already. If you believe in him so blindly, it shouldn't matter what race he is as long as he does exist.

alright. we do have an idea what race Jesus really was. we cant pinpoint with 100% certainty exactly what one he is, but we do know that he is middle eastern because israel is in...surprise! the middle east. and because he was a carpenter, he was probably of better than average build, strong, muscular, becuase he has to build with lumber...and becuase he was middle eastern, he has middle eastern features: ie, larger nose, olive skin, etc, not all this hippie dusty brown shoulder length hair with blue eyes, sandals and the perfectly trimmed goatee...no! this is all the piece of crap americanised jesus...and it's wrong.

and i am finished with the rant...type thing......

[espressive]

You have a point, but at the same time... You shouldn't bother being offended. Really, to belief in our religion you have to have a lot of faith. Some people will just never get it, or have respect for someone who believes in something that they consider to be insane. To many, our religion is so ridiculous that they think it's funny.

Proverbs 23:9 "Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words."

You have to have a lot of faith to believe in any religion, not just Christianity. It just so happens that Christianity is a more common religion than let's say, Zoroastrianism, so it creates publicity.

I believe that verse is referring to converting non-Christians, as it says, 'the wisdom of thy words', which I'm interpreting as the Bible. Once again, not trying to convert anybody. I'm merely addressing a life-lesson of respect, which could be applied to "yay-ers" or "nay-ers". As this is a controversial topic, displayed by the replies, I think we all need to brush up on our maturity and respect or else this'll just turn into a huge mess.

hey look.. another christian thats trying to force his views on us and call us immoral and shit.

I don't really know who you're referring to and don't really need to know, but maybe you should try reading through all the other replies that Christians have posted to divert your society standard mind-set of a stereotypical Christian.

alright. we do have an idea what race Jesus really was. we cant pinpoint with 100% certainty exactly what one he is, but we do know that he is middle eastern because israel is in...surprise! the middle east. and because he was a carpenter, he was probably of better than average build, strong, muscular, becuase he has to build with lumber...and becuase he was middle eastern, he has middle eastern features: ie, larger nose, olive skin, etc, not all this hippie dusty brown shoulder length hair with blue eyes, sandals and the perfectly trimmed goatee...no! this is all the piece of crap americanised jesus...and it's wrong.

First, is this perspective on Jesus's race limited to Americans? I beg to differ. Secondly, exactly who started the topic of Jesus's race? (just wanted to know)

[bat19]

Secondly, exactly who started the topic of Jesus's race? (just wanted to know)

um, yeah, that would be me. I believe I compared him to an oompa loompa. Plus(and correct me if Im wrong, its been a while you see), wasn't jesus a carpenters son? I dont believe they ever really said he himself was a carpenter. In the bible(and any fan of the movie Dogma will probably say "Oh' you suck. You're taking an idea that's been brought up long before this movie I saw ever was thought about and referencing it. You're so unoriginal."), but in the Bible, Jesus goes from twelve to thirty. Now he may have been helping Joseph round the shop every now and again as a kid, but he doesnt necesarily have to have become a carpenter. So to think you have an idea of what a man who may or may not have existed looks like based on his possible profession is unintelligent. In most likelyhood he didnt have blue eyes, pale skin, and flowing straight brown hair. He probably was overweight, bucktooth, and crosseyed with an annoying effeminate voice that got a bunch of people to follow him. "But that's mocking my religion!!" It's not a mockery to bring up possibilities. If that's the way I want to picture a man who only truly exists in a fairy tale then that's the way it's gonna be. The idea of debating religion is pointless because everybody is so hypocritical and self-interested in their own beliefs(myself included) to really make any progress. If it makes you feel superior to believe that an invisible entity will welcome your ghost into a proverbial Chuck e Cheese's by signing your soul away, go ahead and feel superior. I myself am left feeling content with the life I have and would rather not waste time questioning what will happen after.

[Juris Khan]

...Plus(and correct me if Im wrong, its been a while you see), wasn't jesus a carpenters son? I dont believe they ever really said he himself was a carpenter. In the bible,...Jesus goes from twelve to thirty. Now he may have been helping Joseph round the shop every now and again as a kid, but he doesnt necesarily have to have become a carpenter. So to think you have an idea of what a man who may or may not have existed looks like based on his possible profession is unintelligent. In most likelyhood he didnt have blue eyes, pale skin, and flowing straight brown hair. He probably was overweight, bucktooth, and crosseyed with an annoying effeminate voice that got a bunch of people to follow him...

in the jewish culture, you did what your father did(if you were a guy) and so, before jesus became a rabbi, he would have been a carpenter, or at least more than a "temp" or a "sometimes helper" to his father joseph. and like Lil_Cloud it talking about, calling me unintelligent is not respectful. just becuase a person may be wrong about one thing does not mean that they are unintelligent. in fact, intelligence plays no role in this situation, because intelligence is a measurement of your ability to learn. for example, in rainman, the savant had a very high IQ, which stands for Intelligence Quotient, and therefore and intelligent person. he was not, though, the sharpest tool in the shed.