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A thought about post counts.
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post Jan 5 2007, 10:02 PM
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In my short experience as a CreateBlog community member, I have realized post statistics do play a significant role in the user's experience since they grant access to extra features and are a requisite (that can be bypassed in exceptional occasions) to apply for staff membership. This is the not the first place where I have seen this system being used, and thusly it is not the first time I pass this thought to the community to consider. Without further ado, I'll proceed to explain my position about this subject.

In my opinion, post quotas only manage to make users work enough to meet them in order to enjoy the benefits they get for reaching the 50, 100, etc.., post mark. Such acting is not necessarily linked to making users involved in improving the community, but rather in seeking personal goals that may or may not transcend (positive or negatively) onto the rest of users.

That is mainly because apart from the site's general rules, there's not a standard establishing how a person should fill the demanded rate. Since it's pretty easy to maintain a high PPD ratio without adding anything that contributes to the site in general while avoiding the violation of any general rule, the point of having a posts limit becomes kind of moot, in the end.

Lastly, keeping a post count policy seems to have stemmed an underlying rivalry between users based upon the number of posts when it comes to, for example, hiring sessions. Despite knowing it's not a must-meet requirement, people seem to focus first on their PPD then on evaluating whether their skills can be of any help to Createblog or not. And that is pretty counterproductive to the purpose of selecting people willing to sacrifice time and efforts for an online community.
 
 
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post Jan 8 2007, 03:34 AM
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Well, we do have a separate title for those who gain the same extra features based on their submissions to the site - Official Designer. It's actually how I started out, I met the quota by submitting Livejournal layouts and applied. There's not a difference between the two other than the names, really.

And yes, while this community is driven by providing tools for bloggers, a good deal of the members came for the free layouts and stayed for the community. Many are not designers at all and never even venture into the resource center. For this reason, I feel that official membership should be awarded based on community involvement (posting); however, I also feel that it shouldn't be something that is handed out mechanically the way it is now. I agree with you on the idea that it is very easy to reach 200 posts by simply hopping around to the topics that ask for a one-line response ("What are you listening to?", "What are you eating?", "What are you wearing?", "How are you feeling?", "Anonymous Shoutouts", "Official Confessions") - there are tons of these, and that's just off the top of my head.

While these are all legitimate posts that are not against the rules, the person making the posts isn't doing anything to prove himself as a contributing member of the forums by posting only in these topics. In a way, I think the review process should be a bit personal - doing a quick review of post history and looking for quality rather than quantity. If this were the case (and I'm guessing this is the point Jordi is trying to make), then we wouldn't really have so much need for a post count requirement. However, since this makes a LOT of extra work for our admins, who are the only two people who can accept Official Members, I do have another idea which will allow for a defined set of guidelines while still discouraging the "single day post frenzy" that many new members go on trying to get OM status as soon as possible.

I can possibly see having requirement in which the user must be involved in the community for a certain amount of time (like a month or so) along with the requirement that you maintain a certain ppd to prove that you've been active, just to give the user enough time to get settled into the community. The reason I suggest this is because while yes, this is essentially the same as having a post count quota, it doesn't allow the person to rack up those posts in a day or two and then apply - it more or less encourages them to acquire the posts over that period of time instead.

Also, as a side note, if a user has his or her warning level raised, Official Members status is automatically revoked (the board is set to do this). The member has to reapply after his/her warning level goes back to zero. I thought it might be nice to know that our Official Members at least have to stay out of trouble. wink.gif
 

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Kurd Jam   A thought about post counts.   Jan 5 2007, 10:02 PM
mona lisa   Ahh, yes. I believe this has been mentioned before...   Jan 5 2007, 10:47 PM
Statues/Shadows   Mona, can you make them invisible? Like warnings, ...   Jan 5 2007, 11:07 PM
mona lisa   You mean the post count and PPD? Not sure if that...   Jan 5 2007, 11:11 PM
Statues/Shadows   Wait no, that's what I meant. The member could...   Jan 5 2007, 11:35 PM
mona lisa   Ohhh! Sorry about that. Not sure how much effe...   Jan 5 2007, 11:43 PM
Libertie   I'd rather remove the post count from the mini...   Jan 6 2007, 01:53 AM
Kurd Jam   Danielle pretty much covered what I was trying to ...   Jan 6 2007, 02:36 PM
I Shot JFK   Accepting that a benchmark post count fiure is mor...   Jan 7 2007, 07:23 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 7 2007, 1:23 PM) A...   Jan 7 2007, 04:47 PM
I Shot JFK   Granted, different posts are of different vlaue to...   Jan 7 2007, 05:04 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 7 2007, 11:04 PM) ...   Jan 7 2007, 06:18 PM
Libertie   Well, we do have a separate title for those who ga...   Jan 8 2007, 03:34 AM
Kurd Jam   I was actually being more anarchistic than that, a...   Jan 8 2007, 02:27 PM
mona lisa   Dani's idea is certainly interesting. I really...   Jan 8 2007, 04:59 PM
Libertie   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 8 2007, 3:59 PM) Da...   Jan 8 2007, 05:53 PM
Kurd Jam   Working on the reply for everybody, sorry for the ...   Jan 9 2007, 04:22 PM
I Shot JFK   Regarding the third objective, why do you want to ...   Jan 8 2007, 05:18 PM
I Shot JFK   My concern about a spam forum is the way in which ...   Jan 8 2007, 06:02 PM
mzkandi   ^ My concerns exactly.   Jan 8 2007, 06:23 PM
mona lisa   Wait, what data? The giving-new-members-time-bef...   Jan 10 2007, 03:51 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 10 2007, 9:51 PM) W...   Jan 10 2007, 04:01 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 10 2007, 4:01 PM) Th...   Jan 10 2007, 04:15 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 10 2007, 10:15 PM) ...   Jan 10 2007, 04:47 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 8 2007, 12:34 AM) Al...   Jan 12 2007, 02:38 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(Azarel @ Jan 12 2007, 1:38 AM) Actu...   Jan 12 2007, 07:08 PM
mona lisa   Yup, it has to be dome manually by admins. QUOTE(L...   Jan 13 2007, 12:54 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 13 2007, 5:54 AM) Y...   Jan 13 2007, 06:47 AM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 12 2007, 4:08 PM) Sh...   Jan 19 2007, 08:27 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Jan 19 2007, 7:27 AM) ...   Jan 20 2007, 08:29 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 20 2007, 2:29 PM) I ...   Jan 20 2007, 02:27 PM
Libertie   ^Right, a person who posts a little at first, does...   Jan 13 2007, 10:38 PM
rawtheekuh.   I believe we should get rid of the post count requ...   Jan 13 2007, 10:56 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(rawtheekuh. @ Jan 14 2007, 4:56 AM)...   Jan 16 2007, 04:28 PM
Kurd Jam   Yesterday I noticed of another "negative...   Jan 18 2007, 03:53 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 18 2007, 12:53 PM) A...   Jan 19 2007, 03:00 AM
niez_cho   It's true that it's very difficult to brin...   Jan 19 2007, 07:36 AM
icy_wonderland   What about those people that joined few years ago,...   Jan 19 2007, 07:56 AM
niez_cho   ^ yea, I agree. It's not fair.   Jan 19 2007, 08:09 AM
Uronacid   I can't stand the fact that: When I'm not...   Jan 19 2007, 02:46 PM
MiSSxMELON   In my opinion, post counts play a mixed role. It...   Jan 20 2007, 03:33 PM
Kurd Jam   I found this topic while lurking through the Loung...   Jan 27 2007, 02:05 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 27 2007, 2:05 PM) I ...   Jan 31 2007, 12:30 PM


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