Christians?, with all these post, are there any christians here? |
Christians?, with all these post, are there any christians here? |
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is anybody here a Christian, and if so, do you really believe and follow Christ, because with all these posts about having sex and whatnot, it doesn't necessarily sound like it...but i don't want to be judgmental and say that you're not...
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![]() and so it is ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Human Posts: 1,304 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,085 ![]() |
I'm Christian, though I don't know what kind of Christian specificly. I've tried many kinds of churches, but I can't seem to find one that really suits me. Just think of those people as loose believers ...? There's such thing as non-denominational Christians, which means that you don't necessarily align yourself with a certain christian sect. is anybody here a Christian, and if so, do you really believe and follow Christ, because with all these posts about having sex and whatnot, it doesn't necessarily sound like it...but i don't want to be judgmental and say that you're not... Yes, I'm Lutheran. And I think that's a ridiculous statement. Just because we're Christians doesn't mean we can't talk about sex and sex is a taboo. We are just taught to look at sex with a different perspective than some people. |
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[/font] Yes, I'm Lutheran. And I think that's a ridiculous statement. Just because we're Christians doesn't mean we can't talk about sex and sex is a taboo. We are just taught to look at sex with a different perspective than some people. now, i never said that we cant talk about sex or that it is taboo, just the way people are talking about it and saying how they've done this and they've done that makes it sound like they aren't. and like i said, i don't want to judge or assume, and so that 's why i started this, i wanted to know. |
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![]() hardxcore. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,223 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 479,494 ![]() |
now, i never said that we cant talk about sex or that it is taboo, just the way people are talking about it and saying how they've done this and they've done that makes it sound like they aren't. and like i said, i don't want to judge or assume, and so that 's why i started this, i wanted to know. I wouldn't worry about it. Most of them are just making crap up to impress everyone. And if some of them really have had sex before marriage, they are the ones that are going to be punshied, not you. The only think that you can do for them if pray. |
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I wouldn't worry about it. Most of them are just making crap up to impress everyone. And if some of them really have had sex before marriage, they are the ones that are going to be punshied, not you. The only think that you can do for them if pray. but in my opinion, i'm my own person and i can make my own decisions, including when and with whom i should have sex. i don't need to follow a book or a person who we have no proof whatsoever even exists. i'm atheist and i don't think that i'll be "punished" for having pre-marital sex. how many christians do you know that drink? isn't that supposedly against the bible too? |
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how many christians do you know that drink? isn't that supposedly against the bible too? drinking (consuming alcohol) isn't against the bible...abusing alcohol is though... i mean, wine has alcohol in it yet jesus used it in the last supper... See though. Christians beilieve differently. The question is directed toward Christians because athestiests have no knowledge on this topic. I know a few Christians that drink. It is their personal desicion. That is kind of the point of Christianity. It means if the devil tempts you & you fall into his trap, it is obviously wrong, but if you have accept Christ as your saviour then you can be forgiven in an instant. It is Christians like that, whom drink or somit other sins while knowing it is wrong during the week & going to church on Sunday/Wednesday & acting like they are worthy Christians, whom give faithful Christians a bad name & a majority of the reason that more & more people are pulling away from Christianity. I never said that drinking & sex WEREN'T described as "bad" in the bible. there are lots of sins that are considered bad, but every human being sins, being Christian or not. I hope that no one takes this the wrong way, but it is really hard to describe what you are saying by simple words in which you can't express much reaction in. Christians are thought to have more disipline than non-Christians because they are more educated on the bible & the information the bible contains. But like I said before, everyone can be forgiven. The only unforgivable sin is blasphamey. Did that make any sence? And by the way, you said that we have no "proof" that Jesus ever existed. I particially agree with that statement. Everyone has doubts but that is why Christians have to be faithful to their servant. The bible is partical "proof", as call it. i agree |
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drinking (consuming alcohol) isn't against the bible...abusing alcohol is though... i mean, wine has alcohol in it yet jesus used it in the last supper... i agree actually drinking alcohol is not bad, but if you get drunk then you commited a sin, that's why its best to not even drink at all sense i can be addicting or you could get drunk, (ps the bible also talks about "dont get addicted to something" im not sure i read it in the bible somewhere... Actually, I doubt more than a few people are making up stuff to impress people. Honestly, no one really reads through "Are you a virgin" threads like that, unless you have this crazy ass story about how you lost your virginity which is highly unlikely. It's just very, VERY, VERRYYYY common for teenagers to have already lost their virginity before they even enter college these days. And I wouldn't say they would be "punished". Being a Christian is about making mistakes, repenting and asking for forgiveness. If you f**k up and have pre-marital sex, you can decide to be abstinent from that point on and ask God for forgiveness. ============= Jerico Drum - Preach it man. I think I love you. I agree with everything you say from the 2nd paragraph to the end what the heck! dude no!! Christianity is not about making mistakes and asking for forgiveness if you keep making those same mistakes it shows you dont really care! Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with Christ, Christianity is about loving him and knowing he died and accept that he was reserected. You shouldn't say something you don't know that's true about a religion, because there might be someone out there ready to make you look like a fool, not saying that im trying to just saying it because it could happen. |
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actually drinking alcohol is not bad, but if you get drunk then you commited a sin, that's why its best to not even drink at all sense i can be addicting or you could get drunk, (ps the bible also talks about "dont get addicted to something" im not sure i read it in the bible somewhere... what the heck! dude no!! Christianity is not about making mistakes and asking for forgiveness if you keep making those same mistakes it shows you dont really care! Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with Christ, Christianity is about loving him and knowing he died and accept that he was reserected. You shouldn't say something you don't know that's true about a religion, because there might be someone out there ready to make you look like a fool, not saying that im trying to just saying it because it could happen. To go alng with the whole its a sin to get drunk thing, the Bible also talks about our body being God's temple and that we should take care of it. So drinking too much or using any drug to much is sin. In fact anything that makes your body unhealthy is sin. Same as overeating. God gave us wonderfull bodies and I think he wants us to keep them in good condition. I know this sounds a bit "extreme" but think of it this way: You spent a lot of energy making the perfect present for someone and they just mess it up. You would be kinda mad and feel disrespected. Well God spent some energy to make these bodies and he put a lot of thought into it, is it right for us to reck it. And Christianity is based on f**king up. Think about it. If Jesus didn't die on the cross then there would be no christian believe. it would be more like Judaism. Jesus died on the cross because of our f**k ups. Therefor, no f**k ups, no christain. The whole point was that when we mess up we can go to him for forgiveness. Not sure if I said this all right (I have a problem with putting things in my head into words) but I think you might get the point. P.S. Thanks Brownsugar. You don't know what it means to me to have people agree with me again. In my church I was said to be kinda "radical" so people didn't listen to me after a while. |
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To go alng with the whole its a sin to get drunk thing, the Bible also talks about our body being God's temple and that we should take care of it. So drinking too much or using any drug to much is sin. In fact anything that makes your body unhealthy is sin. Same as overeating. God gave us wonderfull bodies and I think he wants us to keep them in good condition. I know this sounds a bit "extreme" but think of it this way: You spent a lot of energy making the perfect present for someone and they just mess it up. You would be kinda mad and feel disrespected. Well God spent some energy to make these bodies and he put a lot of thought into it, is it right for us to reck it. And Christianity is based on f**king up. Think about it. If Jesus didn't die on the cross then there would be no christian believe. it would be more like Judaism. Jesus died on the cross because of our f**k ups. Therefor, no f**k ups, no christain. The whole point was that when we mess up we can go to him for forgiveness. Not sure if I said this all right (I have a problem with putting things in my head into words) but I think you might get the point. P.S. Thanks Brownsugar. You don't know what it means to me to have people agree with me again. In my church I was said to be kinda "radical" so people didn't listen to me after a while. I can now see why, please dont use that language around me, im not fond of it and if you do it anyways you are not worthy to be talked to. and no Christianity is not about making mistakes. you however don't seem to know the least bit of what it really means. Anyways you arent proving a point and arent making any sense. |
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I can now see why, please dont use that language around me, im not fond of it and if you do it anyways you are not worthy to be talked to. and no Christianity is not about making mistakes. you however don't seem to know the least bit of what it really means. Anyways you arent proving a point and arent making any sense. come on, this isnt the way either. christ was about love. i mean, look at who he hung out with: prostitutes, lepers, and all the other "dregs of society" that no one else would even look at. and he loved on them. he didnt hang out with the "upper crust" he didnt hang out with the priests...he even called the priests, the ones who were supposed to be the most respected and revered, "white-washed walls" and i dont know if you know what the reference is, but when there were celebrations, and one had to be clean to attend, they would go out paint the tombs and graves white so that everyone coming would not accidentally touch a dead body and become unclean...so basically, the priests were good looking on the outside, but rotting on the inside...and these were the people who were supposed to represent God. but they did nothing of the sort. christ showed that we are supposed to love everyone, so if there could be only one word to describe christianity, it would have to be love. second to love would be not sinning...because love would bring that change...love would be the change...anyway, i think i've ranted enough... |
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