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A thought about post counts.
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post Jan 5 2007, 10:02 PM
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In my short experience as a CreateBlog community member, I have realized post statistics do play a significant role in the user's experience since they grant access to extra features and are a requisite (that can be bypassed in exceptional occasions) to apply for staff membership. This is the not the first place where I have seen this system being used, and thusly it is not the first time I pass this thought to the community to consider. Without further ado, I'll proceed to explain my position about this subject.

In my opinion, post quotas only manage to make users work enough to meet them in order to enjoy the benefits they get for reaching the 50, 100, etc.., post mark. Such acting is not necessarily linked to making users involved in improving the community, but rather in seeking personal goals that may or may not transcend (positive or negatively) onto the rest of users.

That is mainly because apart from the site's general rules, there's not a standard establishing how a person should fill the demanded rate. Since it's pretty easy to maintain a high PPD ratio without adding anything that contributes to the site in general while avoiding the violation of any general rule, the point of having a posts limit becomes kind of moot, in the end.

Lastly, keeping a post count policy seems to have stemmed an underlying rivalry between users based upon the number of posts when it comes to, for example, hiring sessions. Despite knowing it's not a must-meet requirement, people seem to focus first on their PPD then on evaluating whether their skills can be of any help to Createblog or not. And that is pretty counterproductive to the purpose of selecting people willing to sacrifice time and efforts for an online community.
 
 
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post Jan 6 2007, 01:53 AM
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I'd rather remove the post count from the mini profile which appears next to every post than get rid of the display altogether. For example, if you click a person's name to view their profile you can still see the number of posts along with their ppd.

However, I don't think removing the post count is the issue Jordi's trying to bring up. This goes more along with this topic, as this is what got us started talking in the first place. The topic Anna started talks about having a minimum post count requirement in order to request a layout. I see the basic idea behind this, but after giving it some thought (which I would never have done if not for having this discussion with Jordi) I realize how silly the idea actually is.

In any case, there is no way to stop people from posting around the forums, getting their 50 posts, getting their layout, and then never coming back again. And to be honest, who cares? CB is here to offer free resources, and if a designer wants to make a layout for someone, knowing that they probably won't be grateful enough to continue posting as an active member, that's the designer's prerogative. It should be the designer's decision as to whether or not he/she wants to take on the task of completing a request. If it bothers them, they don't have to do it, right? Most designers, or at least this applies to me, would go into a request thread, and if the person has been an active member or if they recognize the username, they'll agree to do it. Otherwise, they choose to ignore the topic altogether. For this reason, I don't see why we can't get rid of that little rule that says you have to have 50 posts in order to request a layout. I do realize that it was my rant with Anna which brought up the discussion in the other thread, but upon giving the issue some thought, it's my fault that I agreed to make a Livejournal layout for a guy, knowing from the very beginning that his sole intention was to make it to 50 posts and then stop coming to the forums altogether.

That having been said, I like the requirements we have set in place for Official Members. It's kind of a fun thing to work for that adds something rather unique to the forums. The Official Member title shows dedication and an interest in the forums, and why wouldn't a potential staff member want to work hard for that title? However, if a person doesn't make 200 quality posts in order to acquire Official Member status, to me they haven't earned it. This is another point made in Jordi's post - he pointed out that reaching a post count milestone is a pointless goal if you can get there quickly and easily by making a ton of useless, one-line posts. In my opinion, that's why the post count requirement was raised to 200 from 50 - fifty quality posts are harder to acquire than 200 spam posts.
 

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Kurd Jam   A thought about post counts.   Jan 5 2007, 10:02 PM
mona lisa   Ahh, yes. I believe this has been mentioned before...   Jan 5 2007, 10:47 PM
Statues/Shadows   Mona, can you make them invisible? Like warnings, ...   Jan 5 2007, 11:07 PM
mona lisa   You mean the post count and PPD? Not sure if that...   Jan 5 2007, 11:11 PM
Statues/Shadows   Wait no, that's what I meant. The member could...   Jan 5 2007, 11:35 PM
mona lisa   Ohhh! Sorry about that. Not sure how much effe...   Jan 5 2007, 11:43 PM
Libertie   I'd rather remove the post count from the mini...   Jan 6 2007, 01:53 AM
Kurd Jam   Danielle pretty much covered what I was trying to ...   Jan 6 2007, 02:36 PM
I Shot JFK   Accepting that a benchmark post count fiure is mor...   Jan 7 2007, 07:23 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 7 2007, 1:23 PM) A...   Jan 7 2007, 04:47 PM
I Shot JFK   Granted, different posts are of different vlaue to...   Jan 7 2007, 05:04 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 7 2007, 11:04 PM) ...   Jan 7 2007, 06:18 PM
Libertie   Well, we do have a separate title for those who ga...   Jan 8 2007, 03:34 AM
Kurd Jam   I was actually being more anarchistic than that, a...   Jan 8 2007, 02:27 PM
mona lisa   Dani's idea is certainly interesting. I really...   Jan 8 2007, 04:59 PM
Libertie   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 8 2007, 3:59 PM) Da...   Jan 8 2007, 05:53 PM
Kurd Jam   Working on the reply for everybody, sorry for the ...   Jan 9 2007, 04:22 PM
I Shot JFK   Regarding the third objective, why do you want to ...   Jan 8 2007, 05:18 PM
I Shot JFK   My concern about a spam forum is the way in which ...   Jan 8 2007, 06:02 PM
mzkandi   ^ My concerns exactly.   Jan 8 2007, 06:23 PM
mona lisa   Wait, what data? The giving-new-members-time-bef...   Jan 10 2007, 03:51 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 10 2007, 9:51 PM) W...   Jan 10 2007, 04:01 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 10 2007, 4:01 PM) Th...   Jan 10 2007, 04:15 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 10 2007, 10:15 PM) ...   Jan 10 2007, 04:47 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 8 2007, 12:34 AM) Al...   Jan 12 2007, 02:38 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(Azarel @ Jan 12 2007, 1:38 AM) Actu...   Jan 12 2007, 07:08 PM
mona lisa   Yup, it has to be dome manually by admins. QUOTE(L...   Jan 13 2007, 12:54 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 13 2007, 5:54 AM) Y...   Jan 13 2007, 06:47 AM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 12 2007, 4:08 PM) Sh...   Jan 19 2007, 08:27 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Jan 19 2007, 7:27 AM) ...   Jan 20 2007, 08:29 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jan 20 2007, 2:29 PM) I ...   Jan 20 2007, 02:27 PM
Libertie   ^Right, a person who posts a little at first, does...   Jan 13 2007, 10:38 PM
rawtheekuh.   I believe we should get rid of the post count requ...   Jan 13 2007, 10:56 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(rawtheekuh. @ Jan 14 2007, 4:56 AM)...   Jan 16 2007, 04:28 PM
Kurd Jam   Yesterday I noticed of another "negative...   Jan 18 2007, 03:53 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 18 2007, 12:53 PM) A...   Jan 19 2007, 03:00 AM
niez_cho   It's true that it's very difficult to brin...   Jan 19 2007, 07:36 AM
icy_wonderland   What about those people that joined few years ago,...   Jan 19 2007, 07:56 AM
niez_cho   ^ yea, I agree. It's not fair.   Jan 19 2007, 08:09 AM
Uronacid   I can't stand the fact that: When I'm not...   Jan 19 2007, 02:46 PM
MiSSxMELON   In my opinion, post counts play a mixed role. It...   Jan 20 2007, 03:33 PM
Kurd Jam   I found this topic while lurking through the Loung...   Jan 27 2007, 02:05 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Jan 27 2007, 2:05 PM) I ...   Jan 31 2007, 12:30 PM


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