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Can you prove that the Bible is authentic? That there's truely no Contradictions, If there even 1 contradiction, the Bible is not authentic.
illriginal
post Sep 5 2006, 04:39 PM
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Can you guys prove these contradictions to be false? Here's your challenge, prove to me and everyone else that the Bible is not false and misleading to the truth of God and his prophets.


Here's your big resource of Biblical contradictions:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
 
 
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post Dec 28 2006, 02:44 PM
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Spirited Away,

Very good questions / points.

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Circle =/= Sphere

Isaiah 40:22 does specifically say "circle" in the King James English. Please remember, though, that the English word you see is an interpretation of the Hebrew word, "chuwg" (pronounced "khoog" -- like a hocker sound in the beginning, though). This word means "circle, circuit, or compass". The "compass" is not for North / South, but rather to encompass / surround something. The word "sphere" does not appear in the KJV Bible because this same Hebrew word covers both "circle" and "sphere".

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And while science advanced to call Earth a rotating, revolving sphere, the Bible's still stuck on a "hanged" and "suspended" Earth.

Once again, if you look at the original Hebrew, you'll see that the word "talah" (pronounced "taw-law") means "to suspend or hang / hang up". When you look at the verse in Job, notice that it says " and hangeth the earth upon nothing." If you hang something on nothing, you can use whatever modern word you'd like (including "free float"), but bottom line is that it's hanging on nothing.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're describing the difference between translations and interpretations. We start with the originals -- the Hebrew & Aramaic of the Old Covenant and the Greek for the New Covenant. We have these documents and this is why, for any questions, this is what is referred to in order to get away from translation issues. These originals have been translated into other languages: English, Chinese, German, etc. Then you get into different interpretations from one English version to another English version. For example, if I were to be speaking in "1950's English", I might say that someone was very gay. But to the "2000's English" listener, they'd think I was saying someone was a homosexual. So, the KJV may say that someone was wearing "gay" clothing but the New KJV says "fine clothes" -- both correct translations based on the original Greek word and putting into the light of what people of the time understand. The original is unchanged.

The point that we shouldn't be overlooking, though, is that it is only the Bible that has described exactly what "science" has finally concluded to be true. It may not have used the exact words that you'd prefer to see, but it has been a true and correct account of something that man took thousands of years to confirm. The One who created all things wrote this down thousands of years earlier to show that He can document that which He created.

lanbexx,

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if one has logic, one cannot have faith because faith is based upon trust about the unknown

Wow. That's really deep.

Consider this: A father has to leave his son in a room with a fire in the fireplace. The son has never experienced being burned and has never attempted to touch fire before. Before stepping out of the room, the father tells the son not to touch the fire or he'll be burned. While the father's gone, though, the son disobeys his father and reaches for the fire. He gets burned.

That boy has moved from the realm of untested faith and disbelief into the realm of tested faith and belief. His trust in his father's words is magnified. He now takes this experience into account the next time his father tells him that something's hot and that he shouldn't touch it. He now uses logic in order to exercise his new-found, tested faith.

Logical application of faith and experience lead to increased faith.

The Hitchhikers' Guide is a book that won't help anyone on the day they stand before the Lord in judgment. The Bible is compilation of 66 books written by 40 authors from very different stations in life over a period greater than a thousand years. In it are the words of life and death. Please take the time to consider your eternal destiny and how the Righteous and Holy Judge will look upon you on your Day of Judgment. No one can guarantee that they'll wake up the next day. Please consider what God's done -- in His Mercy and Grace -- so your fine (and mine) can be paid in full for breaking his Commandments.

yrrnotelekktric,

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Yeah, well. Can some really part the Red Sea though?

You're right. There's no person that can part the Red Sea. That really wouldn't be a problem for the one who created the water in the first place, though.
 

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Tamacracker   Can you prove that the Bible is authentic? That there's truely no Contradictions   Sep 5 2006, 04:39 PM
Tamacracker   http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim...radic...   Sep 5 2006, 05:02 PM
HearrrtBreakerrr   that site has has a lot of crap on it, the person ...   Sep 10 2006, 08:45 AM
Zatanna   Per request, this is being re-opened. However, le...   Sep 10 2006, 09:03 AM
kryogenix   Tamacracker, use the following website to find wee...   Sep 10 2006, 09:36 AM
Born in a burial gown   *Sigh*. What do you have against Christianism? You...   Sep 10 2006, 12:55 PM
funk.this   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 10 2006, 12...   Sep 27 2006, 03:58 PM
one_and_only   is that the definition of authentic?   Sep 10 2006, 05:36 PM
JakeKKing   Islam, eh? Well, if you look at the Christian Bibl...   Sep 17 2006, 12:40 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 17 2006, 1:40 AM) I...   Sep 17 2006, 10:28 AM
Born in a burial gown   ^ Didn't you have more than 988 posts or am I ...   Sep 17 2006, 10:34 AM
Angelina Taylor   You're dreaming.. I have 991, I think :P   Sep 17 2006, 11:22 AM
Born in a burial gown   It was 988 when I posted that. Oh well, I thought ...   Sep 17 2006, 11:55 AM
BonneVache   Tamacracker, you kind of just hop around the forms...   Sep 17 2006, 02:08 PM
vitaC   I have a question about the Bible. but firstly let...   Sep 26 2006, 06:13 AM
wind&fire   QUOTE(vitaC @ Sep 26 2006, 9:13 PM) I hav...   Sep 26 2006, 08:50 PM
funk.this   QUOTE(vitaC @ Sep 26 2006, 6:13 AM) I hav...   Sep 27 2006, 07:22 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(funk.this @ Sep 27 2006, 8:22 PM) I...   Sep 27 2006, 08:53 PM
Angelina Taylor   ^ Thank you.   Sep 26 2006, 08:40 PM
vitaC   Yet, if the author of one book, for example the go...   Sep 27 2006, 10:09 AM
jordan.   Not again Okay, I read through those sites and ...   Sep 27 2006, 10:22 AM
Shahin   QUOTE(jordan. @ Sep 27 2006, 8:22 AM) Li...   Sep 27 2006, 05:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(funk.this @ Sep 27 2006, 3:58 PM) 4...   Sep 27 2006, 10:58 PM
andy...   QUOTEThe Bible has over 6,000 manuscripts. The cha...   Oct 1 2006, 02:56 AM
mishyerr   QUOTEI know theres no convincing some of you who a...   Jan 28 2007, 11:06 PM
Angelina Taylor   Hmmmm, I'm curious as to why in Noah's Ark...   Oct 3 2006, 07:35 AM
icy_wonderland   This is probably off topic. But I've always t...   Oct 3 2006, 07:56 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(icy_wonderland @ Oct 3 2006, 8:56 A...   Oct 3 2006, 07:09 PM
chasingvictory   i assume that you are muslim.. that website: http:...   Oct 3 2006, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing   Who cares anymore. No one on this forum is smart e...   Oct 5 2006, 05:23 PM
Dustin.   ok, about the inconsistencie, (i spelled that sooo...   Oct 7 2006, 01:52 AM
Spirited Away   ^ I'm glad someone think so. I've heard so...   Oct 7 2006, 09:30 AM
Lil_Cloud   Can you prove the Qur'an has absolutely no fau...   Oct 19 2006, 07:34 PM
vash1530   ^no one can justify faith...dur   Oct 20 2006, 08:47 AM
Lil_Cloud   ^ The authentity of the Bible, I meant... if he c...   Oct 21 2006, 04:35 PM
QueenAkasha   Hmm.. I read this book, once. About contradictions...   Oct 25 2006, 02:42 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(QueenAkasha @ Oct 25 2006, 3:42 PM)...   Oct 28 2006, 09:48 PM
iRock cB   ^ As would I. QUOTE(QueenAkasha @ Oct 25 2006...   Oct 28 2006, 09:53 PM
Arjuna Capulong   ^ Ha ha Brenden. And yeah, I agree with Brenden...   Oct 28 2006, 10:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Oct 28 2006, 9:00...   Nov 5 2006, 10:25 AM
*(Ender)*   I know we are supposed to debate ourselves rather ...   Oct 29 2006, 06:41 AM
Arjuna Capulong   ^ Exactly. Which is why you have to be open-minde...   Nov 6 2006, 08:32 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Nov 6 2006, 7:32 ...   Nov 6 2006, 08:44 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 6 2006, 8:44...   Nov 18 2006, 05:14 PM
quinntastic   People always argue this point about the Bible hav...   Nov 18 2006, 05:05 PM
vash1530   this is funny because I recetly had a socratic sem...   Nov 22 2006, 12:46 AM
Angelina Taylor   It's funny; the smartest people I know are mos...   Nov 22 2006, 09:46 AM
ScottD   Unfortunately, your logic's a bit flawed: The ...   Dec 1 2006, 02:03 PM
SixChamberedHeart   QUOTE(ScottD @ Dec 1 2006, 11:03 AM) THE ...   Dec 17 2006, 07:50 PM
splitnightsky   I guess we are taking this as "is the Bible ...   Dec 1 2006, 02:29 PM
ScottD   I'm a bit confused. You say that you "be...   Dec 1 2006, 03:13 PM
SixChamberedHeart   I have an attached disproof of the flood, copied f...   Dec 17 2006, 04:45 PM
Chessboxxa 101   Saw another thread that reminded me of this: Chris...   Dec 17 2006, 06:38 PM
Spirited Away   Wait, wait what? That's not what Isaiah 40:22 ...   Dec 19 2006, 01:37 AM
yrrnotelekktric   Yeah, well. Can some really part the Red Sea thoug...   Dec 26 2006, 03:58 AM
lanbexx   the genius creator of the Hitchhikers guide put it...   Dec 26 2006, 06:46 AM
ScottD   Spirited Away, Very good questions / points. Q...   Dec 28 2006, 02:44 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 1:39 PM) ...   Jan 22 2007, 01:12 PM
mono_logue   i'm going to go with faith and trust.. the bib...   Jan 22 2007, 05:42 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(mono_logue @ Jan 22 2007, 2:42 PM) ...   Jan 22 2007, 07:44 PM
ScottD   QUOTEFrom Heath21: Go to - "http://www.myspac...   Jan 23 2007, 06:46 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 23 2007, 3:46 AM) Okay...   Jan 23 2007, 04:53 PM
kryogenix   PS, it's easy to post a link of debunked contr...   Jan 23 2007, 09:48 AM
ScottD   QUOTEAnd I never said that it was authored by men ...   Jan 24 2007, 10:19 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 24 2007, 7:19 AM) I wo...   Jan 24 2007, 02:37 PM
Heath21   "As for having no clue as to whether or not t...   Jan 24 2007, 04:00 PM
ScottD   mishyerr, "Amen" is usually meant as a ...   Jan 29 2007, 11:09 AM
mishyerr   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 29 2007, 12:09 PM) mis...   Jan 29 2007, 05:31 PM
ScottD   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Jan 29 2007, 5:31 PM) Ac...   Jan 30 2007, 06:26 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 30 2007, 6:26 AM) Good...   Jan 30 2007, 10:03 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 11:03 PM) I...   Jan 30 2007, 10:10 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 30 2007, 10:03 PM) I...   Jan 31 2007, 01:49 AM
ScottD   QUOTEFrom Uronacid: I think she believes that, now...   Jan 31 2007, 06:29 AM
mishyerr   QUOTE(ScottD @ Jan 31 2007, 7:29 AM) As o...   Jan 31 2007, 08:24 PM
Heath21   Well, I think everyone has there own way of interp...   Jan 31 2007, 04:45 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Jan 31 2007, 4:45 PM) Wel...   Jan 31 2007, 07:06 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 31 2007, 4:06 PM) I...   Feb 1 2007, 12:47 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Jan 31 2007, 4:45 PM) Wel...   Feb 1 2007, 10:41 AM
ScottD   QUOTEFrom Heath21: That's what I always believ...   Feb 1 2007, 02:59 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Feb 1 2007, 11:59 AM) As w...   Feb 1 2007, 03:52 PM
ScottD   QUOTEFrom Heath21: Same thing goes with Christiani...   Feb 1 2007, 03:57 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(ScottD @ Feb 1 2007, 12:57 PM) Exce...   Feb 1 2007, 04:12 PM
Claudel   Somewhere in time, someone said that the "Bib...   Feb 1 2007, 04:08 PM
Claudel   Like i've said before, its up to you IN what t...   Feb 1 2007, 04:44 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Claudel @ Feb 1 2007, 1:44 PM) Like...   Feb 1 2007, 04:49 PM


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