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[Vendetta_br]

What bothers me is that one of the admins (or a member, don't remember) posted here not too long ago saying there's no need for hostility between CB and BR. Really, now. I don't see any of it from this side. If someone here posted that they loved BR, it may be border-line spam depending on context but banning someone because of a statement he/she made is ridiculous and hilarious.

- Mona Lisa

That administrator is me, by the way. (OMG BR ADMINISTRATORZ IS POSTIN HERE SO IMMATUREZ). I figured it was time for us to have another chat, since I'm stuck taking out your trash, again. Per the usual. I fully expect this thread to be flamed, which is fine. I'm going to make my point very concisely and very elegantly, try to do the same. Don't be angry, I'm not. I'm as calm as a hindu cow. I'm just fed up.

Recently, I've had to deal with yet ANOTHER cB member deciding it would be fun to spam my boards, and once again, I've had to ban ANOTHER cB member for general jackassery of the 1st degree.

Now Mona Lisa, again, I would like to stress a simple point: I am fully able to control my members, and therefore, they do not come to cB to spam because they're bored or retarded or whatever cause is behind cB members spamming BR. It's rather absurd for you to say "I don't see any of it [hostility] from this side," when you know damned well there is.

I ban an average of 10-15 cB members a month from BR, not because they're on BR - don't get me wrong, I love the traffic, and most are good intentioned enough - but because they think it's funny as hell to come to BR and spam, advertise, and be general nuisances.

Hostility towards BR? http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...6798&st=250

Contrary to what some may think, I passed kindergarten, and learned to read. Now, I'll give one hundred dollars to ANYONE who can find ANY such feelings on BR. We don't like you, and we're intelligent enough to know we don't have to point it out.

.fire, http://blogring.net/forum/archives/97742-i...tml#post2002836 is why you got banned.

We don't ban people because we like to. We ban people who break the rules of the site. Don't think we tolerate your spam or advertising. Don't think you get banned because I run a crew of communists. If you get banned, you get banned because you think spamming or advertising is funny. Well guess what, you're not funny, and you're not clever. It makes you a boring loser and people hate you.

I don't know about the warning system on BR so I can understand if they are warned for spamming. I don't know whether or not it's true or if anyone can confirm so I was only going by word of mouth, er post, of whoever posted about being banned for spamming (or was it advertising?). And I was making hostile remarks about BR, where exactly?

- Mona Lisa

Our warning system is actually quite complex. We can warn, give infractions, suspend points, lower reputation, ban, suspend, and do many other creative things which I designed in my little server shop of horrors. We can also do many more positive things.

We have a pretty clearly defined set of rules. If you have 1-10 posts on your account, and you spam, generally, it will be me that will ban you outright because you're not contributing to my site in any productive way, you're just being an idiot. cB would do the same.

If you advertise ANYTHING that's for personal gain, and not in the links forum, I will generally ban you outright as well.

As far as people coming to BR with genuine opinions and points of discussion, I never ban people. Instead of spamming "LOL CB ROX U SUX0RZ", if someone came to BR, posted a thought out thread about the superiority of cB, and stayed to chat, I wouldn't ban you. I'd refute, of course, but you wouldn't be banned. I encourage dissenting opinions.

I just said "Some of yall are hella dumb." and they suspended me.

- sofakinglazy

I'm sure there is more to it than that. If a moderator banned you, there is a reason. Don't act innocent.

There has been a history of abuse of power at br.
but anyway.
here is not to discus the f**ked up system
the moral of the story is cB
isnt a forum that fucks with people
cB's mods have a sence of dignity.and use their powers as mods respectfully and properly.
and thats why this forum is booming so well.
beacuse here.
there is no hostility.
you can say somehting really dumb and not get rocks thrown at you for your oppion.
you might get corrected.
and there is rarely a thread fight on any forum.
i should know.
im top poster
ive been top poster for a couple days now =]
there are your forum trolls
but they are very minimal
and they are under a sence of control.

- a painefull euphoria

Even if I discounted spelling and grammar, this definately should get an award for "Most ignorant and generally stupid post ever."

There was a never an abuse of power on BR, I would know, because I control all the powers that be on BR. In fact, please, illustrate where this has occured. I'm dying to know.

cB probably "fucks" with people way more than we do. Though I wouldn't know...I generally keep to myself and my own business. I'd be quicker to chide your "staff" as well. You have some good mods, and more bad mods. You elect through popularity contests and your mods fail, time and again, to prevent you from spamming up my boards. Mona Lisa, by not taking any responsibility for the actions of your members, and for ignoring obvious issues we have with each other, you only show your own irresponsibility. I don't know about you, but I'm trying to run a serious site and a serious business. Either get with the program, or "gtfo" as they say.

As for a "booming" site, true, BR had a rough spell. But we're already back to outranking everyone else on pretty much any popular xanga/myspace related search hit, and now that I'm finishing up cleaning up my 2nd generation BR design, our hits are increasing dramatically. I found where cB had linkbacks on BR, and I deleted them all. In fact, I cut BR from cB in every way, shape and form. I don't know why, but we were one of cB's biggest hit and link sources. Clever, but not clever enough. But it's okay.

Oh, and to prove my point, D e a t h . S t a r . R a v e n won't be banned on BR. Because again, I don't ban for arbitrary reasons.

.fire, I know you apologized, and I appreciate it. I really do, it shows a lot of maturity in your case...I know from experience, it's not always the easiest thing to own up to mistakes. Kudos to you.

But you're still banned. And you've done a pretty good job of further deteriorating my paitence towards cB. If you want to come to BR, and contribute, you're welcome. Hell, you're welcome to come, and not say a thing at all, if you wish. But don't come and decide you want to break my rules. I don't care if one of you does it, or all 250,000 of you do. I'll ban you all just the same, not because you're from cB, I honestly don't know where you come from 99% of the time, but because you're being dumb.

Now, either leave BR and myself alone, or let's be friends. But make up your mind, and quit wasting my damn time.

Imagine what we could do for each other if we actually worked together, or affiliated, or what not. I'd like that. But instead, you continue to perpetuate stuff like this.

[minioligo]

Hm. Putting my two cents in. Choose to read it or not.

I'm as calm as a hindu cow. I'm just fed up.

Then you should grasp the concept behind the quote, and not be offended.

I honestly respected you for putting your opinion out on the table, but this turned me off. Saying something like that is, in my opinion, is absolutely ignorant. You should've chosen another "quote" to try to prove your point in this topic. "As calm as a Hindu cow" was a poor quote to choose from and I think that you are smart enough to know that you should have known better.

We have a pretty clearly defined set of rules. If you have 1-10 posts on your account, and you spam, generally, it will be me that will ban you outright because you're not contributing to my site in any productive way, you're just being an idiot. cB would do the same.

Actually, as Mona Lisa said, no. Createblog has their own way of handling its members and also has their own set of rules. Also, I know (from being a former mod) that createblog would not "ban members outright" for just having 1-10 posts on an account with spam. I know for sure that cB has its own warning system and it is for mods to decide what they would do for a member if they ever broke a rule.

cB probably "fucks" with people way more than we do. Though I wouldn't know...I generally keep to myself and my own business. I'd be quicker to chide your "staff" as well. You have some good mods, and more bad mods. You elect through popularity contests and your mods fail, time and again, to prevent you from spamming up my boards. Mona Lisa, by not taking any responsibility for the actions of your members, and for ignoring obvious issues we have with each other, you only show your own irresponsibility. I don't know about you, but I'm trying to run a serious site and a serious business. Either get with the program, or "gtfo" as they say.

If you have a problem with the mods, take it to the Moderator Performance topic in feedback. As for the modding process, the entire community (meaning its members and staff) generally elects the mods they want, and that is what makes the forums happy. Sure, cB does not choose "good mods" every time, but why does every modding process have to be absolutely perfect? Experience with former mods and members is what a forum needs for guidelines and examples. And popularity contests? I think you should try going through the process of electing mods here at cB first before saying something like that. Otherwise, you can shut your mouth about that topic. You do not have the place (actually, nobody does) to choose an exact right or wrong way of how to elect mods and how they do their job.

Createblog has no control over its members and you can do whatever you'd like to them at blogring. If the members and staff team is so bad here at cB, as Brendon said, back it up. You act as if everybody at createblog wants to bash BR in every way. I can honestly say that probably more than half the members here don't even care. The old cB vs. BR feud was over a long time ago.

That's all I have to say.