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Is War Justified Murder?
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post Oct 19 2006, 01:50 AM
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I feel that the killing or for specific terms, murder of one soldier by another soldier is justified. The soldier is protecting our society, he is protecting our individual rights as a citizen of a certain country. If I've forgotten more then tell me. But I'm sure you all have the point. I feel that it's justified, but some people don't.

If a citizen or ordinary person killed or murdered another person to save another person from losing his life is he right?

I really want to see how people view this topic. If I have not made myself clear, then just ask me to clarify. Thanks.
 
 
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post Oct 28 2006, 12:43 PM
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War is murder?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this.

Oh, is killing someone else in combat considered murder? Is that the question? No. You have a job to do, you get the job done. Lives are taken. Shit happens.
 
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post Nov 29 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Oct 28 2006, 12:43 PM) *
War is murder?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this.

Oh, is killing someone else in combat considered murder? Is that the question? No. You have a job to do, you get the job done. Lives are taken. Shit happens.

First of all, why would someone join the army? Sure you can just get drafted randomly or whatever, but a lot of people do it for the pride of their country.
Murder is manslaughter (yeah, I know it's contradictory, but I couldn't think of a better way to put it), but with premeditation. People who fight for their country know what they're getting themselves into. They know that they're gonna kill someone.
War strategies are related to murder. I mean, strategies are plans, premeditation. War strategies are basically plans to kill people and achieve your objective. If look at a person, point a gun at them, and shoot, that's murder. Most likely, you've though about it for a split-second, and that's still murder because that split-second is premeditation.
 
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post Nov 30 2006, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 29 2006, 7:49 PM) *
First of all, why would someone join the army? Sure you can just get drafted randomly or whatever, but a lot of people do it for the pride of their country.
Murder is manslaughter (yeah, I know it's contradictory, but I couldn't think of a better way to put it), but with premeditation. People who fight for their country know what they're getting themselves into. They know that they're gonna kill someone.
War strategies are related to murder. I mean, strategies are plans, premeditation. War strategies are basically plans to kill people and achieve your objective. If look at a person, point a gun at them, and shoot, that's murder. Most likely, you've though about it for a split-second, and that's still murder because that split-second is premeditation.


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I hope you're ready beacuase you've opened a can of worms that I'm not sure you can handle.

When engaged in combat, you are not actively seeking people out and murdering them. That would be a crime. A murder is one sided. The victim either cannot defend themselves or does not see it coming. A killing that occurs in combat is under the agreement and knowledge that, of the two sides, one has to win. If you got shot at, would you sit there and hope that a 7.62 does rip through your skull and splatter your brains all over your platoon Sergeant's face, or do you fight back and end the lives of all those who threaten the safety of you or your Marines?

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JakeKKing   Is War Justified Murder?   Oct 19 2006, 01:50 AM
sakaitone   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Oct 19 2006, 2:50 AM) I...   Oct 19 2006, 06:58 PM
Shahin   I wouldn't dub it murder. The word murder impl...   Oct 19 2006, 07:15 PM
kryogenix   Murder and justified don't belong together.   Oct 20 2006, 06:57 AM
faded23   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 20 2006, 5:57 AM) M...   Jan 2 2007, 11:30 PM
vash1530   if u think that one person deserves to live more t...   Oct 20 2006, 08:49 AM
sakaitone   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Oct 20 2006, 9:49 AM) if...   Oct 20 2006, 10:42 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sakaitone @ Oct 20 2006, 8:42 PM) L...   Oct 25 2006, 03:25 AM
xourzestt   No. because you choose to walk towards your death ...   Oct 25 2006, 12:00 AM
BrandonSaunders   War is murder? Hmm, I'm not sure I understand...   Oct 28 2006, 12:43 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Oct 28 2006, 12:4...   Nov 29 2006, 07:49 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 29 2006, 7:49 PM) F...   Nov 30 2006, 11:30 AM
sweetfeet90   QUOTEThe soldier is protecting our society, he is ...   Nov 29 2006, 07:33 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   It's not murdering, it's killing. I disag...   Nov 29 2006, 08:17 PM
rawr SOCK   But a large portion of the wars in the past were v...   Nov 29 2006, 08:24 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   I have never been to war, obviously. I don't r...   Nov 29 2006, 08:53 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(WHIMSICAL 0NE @ Nov 29 2006, 8:53 P...   Nov 29 2006, 09:29 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 29 2006, 8:29 PM) T...   Nov 30 2006, 09:59 AM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(WHIMSICAL 0NE @ Nov 30 2006, 9:59 A...   Nov 30 2006, 04:15 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 30 2006, 3:15 PM) S...   Nov 30 2006, 07:23 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 29 2006, 9:29 PM) h...   Dec 1 2006, 05:59 PM
Statues/Shadows   Murder yes; justified, no.   Nov 29 2006, 11:09 PM
BrandonSaunders   Sniper fire is a strategic tactic of combat. The f...   Dec 1 2006, 09:47 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Oct 19 2006, 7:50 AM) I...   Jan 2 2007, 10:55 PM
Maestro   I say, if you're fighting for your country in ...   Jan 5 2007, 11:34 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   QUOTE(Maestro @ Jan 5 2007, 10:34 PM) I s...   Jan 6 2007, 07:33 PM
T0rmented_Soul   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Oct 18 2006, 10:50 PM) ...   Jan 9 2007, 06:37 PM
Uronacid   War.... I don't think that soldiers killing pe...   Jan 10 2007, 09:06 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jan 10 2007, 8:06 PM) We...   Jan 11 2007, 06:31 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(WHIMSICAL 0NE @ Jan 11 2007, 6:31 P...   Jan 15 2007, 01:05 AM


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