Higher Expectations in the Graphics Section Options

[*salcha4u*]

Seriously. Why do we have stuff like this.. http://www.createblog.com/graphics/index.p...uthor_id=468620
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17520
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16808
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16255
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16253
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16220
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16219
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16218
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16217
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16216

Looks like a bunch of lines drawn on paint then uploaded as a chepass jpg/jpeg file. There are 100x100 with a couple words slapped on them called "icons"...And admit it, the photos suck. I can take a picture of my foot with different angles and it'll probably be accepted. Really, who uses them?

More useless crap:
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16736
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16422
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16326
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=16211
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=15806

And this is only 5 out of the hundreds.

[*Libertie*]

rofl@ the High School Musical thing. >.<

There is no one, single, clear pervading FLAW with the current system. As such, it does not need ammending. Yes, perhps a new housecleaning would be helpful. But last time, several layouts which were actually on my favourites list were removed. Clearly they werent 'useless', and i was actually really annoyed by one which was rejected. So i would just like to question the criteria which would be used, because i see two possible scenarios.

1) The housecleaning is carried out with much tighter guidleines, as a result of which we lose several graphics which may not be pure genius, but which people like.

2) The housecleaning is carried out under the existing guidelines, which means that the vast majority of existing graphics would be acceptable anyway, only a few would be rejected which genuinely need to be, but the mods would reject some which perhaps meet the criteria in and of themselves, bu which they dislike, and thus feel more inclined to reject as part of said housecleaning. Again, we lose graphics which people like, and based soelly on subjectivity.

I agree with this. The rejecting guidelines when going back through were MUCH more harsh than the guidelines for accepting submissions. I had no idea it was going to get carried away like it did - people were going through, mass-rejecting without putting much thought into it at all. One bad thing is that we had the housecleaning right after hiring new staff members, so not everyone had gotten a chance to settle in and figure out exactly what the standard is. Bad idea. We should have waited. My bad.

If we do a new housecleaning, here are a few problems I have with the last one:

- People who are focused in one area (ex. Myspace staff) rejecting something OUT of their area of expertise. I had someone reject EVERY ONE of my livejournal layouts during the housecleaning. I admit that perhaps the image work isn't all that great, but honestly. My layouts against some terrible ones were rejected, and the ones that actually NEEDED to go stayed. I wouldn't have gone through rejecting Myspace layouts, because I don't actually have a Myspace of my own, so I don't know what types of layouts a lot of people are using.

- People just going through as quickly as possible and getting through their section. Remember, these people who put effort into submitting and getting something accepted are now going to be getting PMs essentially telling them, "Yeah, so we accepted your work way back when but now we think it sucks. Sorry." Actually THINK about that when you hit reject - "Is it actually worth smashing our credibility by rejecting something that was already previously accepted?"

Also remember that these things were accepted for a reason. Of course, in some cases it could have been a fluke - there WAS a time when non-design staffers were allowed access to the queue, and hitting accept by accident does happen. I really thought the mess during the last housecleaning would teach us to NOT want this to happen again. I don't think this housecleaning thing is something we should do regularly, or even multiple times. I thought once would be enough.

That being said, it obviously wasn't enough. I do think maybe the graphics need to be looked over. As far as everything else, under cb2 it was Design Staff's (as well as Head Staff and Admins) job to look over the queue and monitor things that are being accepted and rejected. When cb3 launched, this kind of died out since now all (sub) design staffers can review accepted layouts. So why not? We don't need a housecleaning session as an excuse to just look through and make sure things are being carried out correctly, yeah? We have an awesome set of four Design Staffers who are more than capable of handling the job.