Happy Seperation of Church and State Day Options

[lanbexx]

let us all take a moment to honor the fundamental principle of our government that the current administration is working so hard to preserve

[pyoon]

Why? This nation was initially settled with religous intent. What would be the fundamental principle of the current ruling state?

[NoSex]

Why? This nation was initially settled with religous intent. What would be the fundamental principle of the current ruling state?

This nation wasn't originally settled with religious intention, you dumb shit.

[pyoon]

This nation wasn't originally settled with religious intention, you dumb shit.

Yes, I suppose the settlers of New England were not seeking and attempting to find a safe haven from the persecution they were getting from their current English government. As well as the Puritians who wanted to reform the Church of England in colonies they were soon to develope. But I guess you can argue between Plymouth and Virginia (I am assuming you know the difference between the two due to the bold comment you had made about my post on settling with religious intent), which was the first settlement. But either way dipshit, law and religion were incorporated together. Read up on the history of the country you reside in and don't make a fool out of yourself.

[NoSex]

Yes, I suppose the settlers of New England were not seeking and attempting to find a safe haven from the persecution they were getting from their current English government. As well as the Puritians who wanted to reform the Church of England in colonies they were soon to develope. But I guess you can argue between Plymouth and Virginia (I am assuming you know the difference between the two due to the bold comment you had made about my post on settling with religious intent), which was the first settlement. But either way dipshit, law and religion were incorporated together. Read up on the history of the country you reside in and don't make a fool out of yourself.

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Don't be such a noob.
Let's take history out of Junior High, shall we?

Ahhh ha, people fleeing to America because of religious persecution! Ahhh ha ha! Wow.
Further, that those were the original settlers?! Ahhhh ha ha ha!

[pyoon]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=1772248

Don't be such a noob.
Let's take history out of Junior High, shall we?

Ahhh ha, people fleeing to America because of religious persecution! Ahhh ha ha! Wow.
Further, that those were the original settlers?! Ahhhh ha ha ha!

oh please... read up on your history. there is a difference between the first settlements of the americas and the development of the us as a country. and yes, the initial colonies had religion and law intermixed. and no, i don't remember junior high, it's been too long ago. take some history courses at your university.

not all fled from persecution but many of the first did.

in either case if i am right or wrong, i have a feeling that i am a lot more smarter and capable than you are. :)

[NoSex]

oh please... read up on your history. there is a difference between the first settlements of the americas and the development of the us as a country. and yes, the initial colonies had religion and law intermixed. and no, i don't remember junior high, it's been too long ago. take some history courses at your university.

Well, as far as your post implied, you were simply talking about the original settlement of the Americas. Further, our developement into an actual country is clearly a secular developement, very much seperated from religion. Our declaration of independence and our entire foundation as a democracy is based within the attitudes of the Age of Reason, not religiousity. We're talking Locke, not Luther.

not all fled from persecution but many of the first did.

Not really. The Puritans weren't exactly persecuted (at least not to the degree that they had to flee from their country), they wanted to persecute the catholics. They were zealots and simply wanted to convert England.

in either case if i am right or wrong, i have a feeling that i am a lot more smarter and capable than you are. :)

The irony of this statement is only amplified by the absurdity is rests upon. So, now we want to play argumentum ad hominem, eh?

You're sooooo convincing.