ZUNE, microsoft's ipod killer., ya gunna buy. Options

[pandamonium]

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Well if you havent heard then you must be deaf & blind lol Microsoft is releasing its mp3 player which is wifi capable and able to try out songs from other zuniez across the street. I think the release date is Nov 14, for 249.00 at walmart.

well the package looks nice, even though they copied the kind of simplicity ipod had, but i like the energy the packaging has. Even though its a little big, much bigger than the ipod 60 GB or now the 80GB. They took on a new color brown lol.

I think this will do better than any other product other than apple just cause its microsoft. I mean what american doesnt like ms. But i am actually thinking of getting it, it has a huge screen also. NICE.

would you buy it.

[medic]

The funny thing is, that the Apple board is sitting praying to god that they do not launch it. Hoping that something will go wrong, and Microsoft will throw it on the back burner like they did with web browsers. If Microsoft wants the market, they will take it.

As John McAfee once said “When you are up against Bill Gates and his money and he is following the strategy. The best bet is to get into another business. Just say ok, forget it I will do something else with my life. Because you can not compete with him.”

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The funny thing is, that the Apple board is sitting praying to god that they do not launch it. Hoping that something will go wrong, and Microsoft will throw it on the back burner like they did with web browsers. If Microsoft wants the market, they will take it.

As John McAfee once said “When you are up against Bill Gates and his money and he is following the strategy. The best bet is to get into another business. Just say ok, forget it I will do something else with my life. Because you can not compete with him.”

Aside from Windows, in what areas has Microsoft been successful? There's a myth that Microsoft dominates any market it touches, but this simply isn't true. Has Microsoft taken over the server market? The console gaming market? The PC handheld market? The embedded systems market? The cell/smartphone market? Not at all.

There's little to no evidence to support your claim that the Apple board is praying Microsoft does not launch the Zune. Most critics have panned the Zune, whereas Apple has a solid product. In this case, it's Microsoft that clearly needs to play catch-up, not Apple—and it's likely going to be a fight for second place, not first.

[medic]

Aside from Windows, in what areas has Microsoft been successful? There's a myth that Microsoft dominates any market it touches, but this simply isn't true. Has Microsoft taken over the server market? The console gaming market? The PC handheld market? The embedded systems market? The cell/smartphone market? Not at all.

There's little to no evidence to support your claim that the Apple board is praying Microsoft does not launch the Zune. Most critics have panned the Zune, whereas Apple has a solid product. In this case, it's Microsoft that clearly needs to play catch-up, not Apple—and it's likely going to be a fight for second place, not first.

Well, lets see. The Server Market a large market for Microsoft. I am sure you can find any site that runs Windows Server. Slowly Linux/Unix has been taking over, and I soon see that changing as well. The Gaming Market is not a monopoly for anyone, there is no one company that owns the entire Gaming Maket. Most companies in the gaming market have been doing it for a while, the Xbox is very new, and was made successful within only a few years. The handheld market no longer exsists, PDAs are a thing of the past. Cell phones do all that PDAs did do. Which brings up Palm Treo and Blackberrys new phone running the Windows Mobile OS.

No, I do not have any evidence to support what I said about the Apple board, and I do not need it. It is a opinion, I don’t need to support my opinion with facts, only if it need to be supported by facts. The Zune, and quote me on this if you want, it will make a bite in the market. And, lets do not forget how well Microsoft has played catch up many times before, and you know what ended out of that? $150 million dollars of Apple stock going to Bill.

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Well, lets see. The Server Market a large market for Microsoft. I am sure you can find any site that runs Windows Server. Slowly Linux/Unix has been taking over, and I soon see that changing as well. The Gaming Market is not a monopoly for anyone, there is no one company that owns the entire Gaming Maket. Most companies in the gaming market have been doing it for a while, the Xbox is very new, and was made successful within only a few years. The handheld market no longer exsists, PDAs are a thing of the past. Cell phones do all that PDAs did do. Which brings up Palm Treo and Blackberrys new phone running the Windows Mobile OS.

No, I do not have any evidence to support what I said about the Apple board, and I do not need it. It is a opinion, I don’t need to support my opinion with facts, only if it need to be supported by facts. The Zune, and quote me on this if you want, it will make a bite in the market. And, lets do not forget how well Microsoft has played catch up many times before, and you know what ended out of that? $150 million dollars of Apple stock going to Bill.

That's all a bunch of baloney. The Xbox is becoming successful? Yeah, sure, if you consider losing a few hundred million dollars "successful". The only reason it's not dead is because Microsoft has a lot of money to dump into it. (Not to knock the Xbox—I like the Xbox a lot—but let's be honest, it hasn't exactly paid off for Microsoft yet, and it possibly never will.)

As for servers, I'm not sure what you mean about Linux/Unix "slowly taking over". Unix has been used on servers for far longer than Windows. Take a look at statistics—Unix is pretty far ahead. Even Microsoft's IIS hasn't caught on—Apache servers far more webpages. And in the high-performance computing segment, almost no one uses Windows. So I'd wager that, aside from the PC market, Microsoft's forays with Windows into other segments has been mediocre, if not outright unsuccessful.

As for your "opinion", you stated it as though it were a fact; and generally, good, worthwhile opinions are backed up by facts, unless you're an expert in the field in your own right (which isn't the case here, to be frank). If the Zune makes a bite in the market, it will only be because Microsoft has a monopoly to throw behind it—and I doubt it will even be a big bite.

And as a final question, when has Microsoft successfully played catch-up? DOS/Windows didn't have to catch up to anyone, it was already a market standard. Word, and eventually Office, didn't have any real competitors. I still contend that whenever Microsoft has to actually compete, it doesn't do a very good job at all. Frankly, the company is quite mismanaged—the massive delay in Vista is but one symptom of the company's management troubles.