The Kennedy Assassination Options

[Gypsy Eyes]

We're discussing this in my great moral class and I was so suprised that nothing came up when I searched this, if there is I'm really sorry just merge it or something. Alright moving on.

Who do you think killed Kennedy? There has been so much debate over this issue, the government is saying one thing and the eye witnesses are saying another. The "conclusion" has been changed so many times in order to keep Oswald as the only killer.

I could rant for hours on this so what is your opinion? If you want some more background information this is a really good site.

[Gypsy Eyes]

Which video? The video I posted? It explains that entirely.

I'm talking about the actual video account of the assassination.

And the place is not clean at all, I've been there. It's a large attic, and there were stacks of books everywhere. There is no way in hell he could have ran even four flights of stairs in that time.

And the FBI conducted the tests, the exact people who are in question. And yes he is six inches over from Kennedy, it shot kennedy in the throat, how could it magically move over to pierce Conally in the shoulder?

[NoSex]

And the place is not clean at all, I've been there. It's a large attic, and there were stacks of books everywhere. There is no way in hell he could have ran even four flights of stairs in that time.

The 6th floor is an attic? I'm not sure. But, were you there back in 1963?
In what time? I also brought up the fact that two minutes seems unreasonable.
Remember, the police officer had to drive down Houston St., fight his way through a crowd of people, explain the situation to the super intendent, and search the entirety of the first floor. So, he can do that in two minutes, but Oswald can't run down four flights of stairs?

Come on.

Not to mention, people on the fifth floor heard the gun shots from above. They even heard shells hitting the floor and the click of the hammer on the rifle. Bonnie Ray Williams sat on the fifth floor with several of his fellow employees when the shooting took place. He described the experience as follows:

...and I can't remember what the exact time was but I know I heard a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something, and then another shot and I believe Jarman or someone told me, he said, "I believe someone is shooting at the President," and I think I made a statement "It is someone shooting at the President, and I believe it came from up above us."
Well, I couldn't see at all during the time but I know I heard a third shot fired, and I could also hear something sounded like the shell hulls hitting the floor and the ejecting of the rifle... 45
...because I did not know what was happening. The second shot, it sounded like it was right in the building, the second and third shot. And it sounded--it even shook the building, the side we were on. Cement fell on my head.

People saw a rifle sticking out of the 6th floor window. The rifle was found at the sniper's nest, as were shells and other debris. Clearly, someone was shooting.(1)

And the FBI conducted the tests, the exact people who are in question.

The FBI isn't the only group of people who have conducted that test and others. Many persons, independent of the government have done their own research and tests. On the idea that Oswald could not have made it down those four flights of stairs in time to be in the lunchroom, check out Dave Perry's independent notes on his test. He describes that it is entirely possible that it happened, and that all his tests measured below 78 seconds, despite if the subject was walking or running.(2)

Also, if you don't believe the government that the tree wouldn't be a problem, take a look out the window yourself.



Not a problem.

And yes he is six inches over from Kennedy, it shot kennedy in the throat, how could it magically move over to pierce Conally in the shoulder?

This is your problem. You're still working off of the conspiracy model. Where both of them sit back to back and face forward with their hands on their laps and their heads looking straight ahead. Watch the Zapruder video, that does not reflect the actual positioning of the bodies. The bullet didn't have to move over to hit Conally's shoulder, Conally had moved his shoulder.



No problem.

[rerics]

This is your problem. You're still working off of the conspiracy model. Where both of them sit back to back and face forward with their hands on their laps and their heads looking straight ahead. Watch the Zapruder video, that does not reflect the actual positioning of the bodies. The bullet didn't have to move over to hit Conally's shoulder, Conally had moved his shoulder.

Such a positioning of the two that would make such a trajectory possible may indeed be an accurate recreation of how they were sitting. However, the two concerns I have about this supposed single bullet doing all of the non-deadly wounds are: 1) The autopsy indicates a high back wound that does not penetrate the body, a wound whose end can be felt with a probing finger, and 2) a neck wound that, though appearing to be a small entrance wound in Dallas, was described to be a 7-8 cm jagged gaping wound in Bethesda. Dallas emergency room drs. describe a much smaller cleaner hole, and even the need for a trachetomy would not produce such a large irregular defect.