Bill Clinton Options

[kimmytree]

What are your views on the former President?

What about his effect on the economy?

And what about the attacks on our country? Is he to blame?

Discuss.

(Wikipedia has some good info on him).

[*kryogenix*]

Who's talking about Bush? I thought the topic of discussion was Clinton. SEE, YOU LIBRULS ALWAYS ALWAYS SEEM TO MENTION BUSH EVERY CHANCE YOU GET [/pundit]

The finger was pointed at Clinton years ago, it's just being put into the news again because of the Chris Wallace interview.

Oh yeah, Clinton gave away Nuclear blueprints to Iran in Operation Merlin.

You don't have to give me the economic stats. I know that the economy was doing well under Clinton. But correlation does not imply causation. Also, as I mentioned, Clinton was probably the cause for the recession we had.

[kimmytree]

Who's talking about Bush? I thought the topic of discussion was Clinton. SEE, YOU LIBRULS ALWAYS ALWAYS SEEM TO MENTION BUSH EVERY CHANCE YOU GET [/pundit]

The finger was pointed at Clinton years ago, it's just being put into the news again because of the Chris Wallace interview.

Oh yeah, Clinton gave away Nuclear blueprints to Iran in Operation Merlin.

You don't have to give me the economic stats. I know that the economy was doing well under Clinton. But correlation does not imply causation. Also, as I mentioned, Clinton was probably the cause for the recession we had.

I havent said crap about Bush. Oh, and for starters, learn how to spell. Its LIBERALS.

THE US (Regan and Bush senior) and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

How many attacks did we have under Clinton? There was the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, but that was just a month into his term preceding Bush. Bush is more to blame for that one. But other than that, in the 8 years he was in office, there were no major attacks on the US, and certainly no attacks on the mainland. He kept us SAFE.

And whats with you trying to use big fancy words? To try to make your nearly ridiculous remarks sound intelligent? What do you mean by "recession"?

[*kryogenix*]

I havent said crap about Bush. Oh, and for starters, learn how to spell. Its LIBERALS.

First of all, I'm not talking to you. I was talking to mipadi. Second of all, it should have been clear I was pretending to be obnoxious. But since you don't seem to be able to realize that I am pretending ([/pundit] HAS to mean something), I'll be obnoxious.

THE US (Regan and Bush senior) and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

Argumentum tu quoque. Saying "you too" doesn't make it right.

How many attacks did we have under Clinton? There was the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, but that was just a month into his term preceding Bush. Bush is more to blame for that one. But other than that, in the 8 years he was in office, there were no major attacks on the US, and certainly no attacks on the mainland. He kept us SAFE.

Again, we're talking about Clinton, not Bush. How many attacks? The attacks on Americans were overseas (Cole, Kenya, etc). The planning for 9/11 was during Clinton's term.

However, that's irrelevant. I don't blame any president for terrorists hating us. The terrorists will want to kill us no matter who is in charge. As long as we're not going to convert to Islam, they will want us dead.

And whats with you trying to use big fancy words? To try to make your nearly ridiculous remarks sound intelligent? What do you mean by "recession"?

Ad hominem. Recession is an economic term, if you were listening to the news for the last five or six years, would probably would have heard it.

So what's your point? Reagan illegally sold weapons to Iran, and George H.W. Bush helped give weapons to Osama bin Laden in the first place. Furthermore, it was Bush's lack of initiative in destroying Iraq the first time around that led to problems now.

We had a different enemy under Reagan and H.W. Bush. The USSR was a more imminent threat. However, Clinton gave away nuclear plans in the year 2000. I don't think we were fighting another greater enemy then.

The reason I'm bringing this up is to point out that, sure, you can blame Clinton; but if you're going to point fingers at Clinton, it's only fair to take a good, hard look at his predecessors, which is where a lot of these problems began, or at least didn't get resolved.

I get it. So when people blame Bush, it's only fair to take a good hard look at Clinton then, which might explain why the current administration is talking about Clinton.

And ultimately, my point is that the attempt to discredit Clinton is a good example of "playing politics". Bush's advisors know that the current administration messed up a lot of the handling of post-9/11 affairs, and with an election coming, they're doing everything they can to raise the Republicans' poll numbers before they lose a fair number of seats--and possibly the presidential election in another two years.

I agree, but we're talking about Clinton here, so let's stay on topic.

At any rate, you haven't posted any evidence to blame the recession on Clinton.

Look at when the economy started to go down. It was before Bush's economic policies went into effect.

[*disco infiltrator*]

However, that's irrelevant. I don't blame any president for terrorists hating us. The terrorists will want to kill us no matter who is in charge. As long as we're not going to convert to Islam, they will want us dead.

I know this post is kind of out-of-date for this discussion, but gotta do it:

I don't think Osama bin Laden sent those planes to attack us because he hated our freedom. I think he did it because of our support for Israel, our ties with the Saudi family and our military bases in Saudi Arabia. You know why I think that? Because that's what he f**king said! Are we a nation of 6-year-olds? Answer: yes.

Thank you.