Bill Clinton Options

[kimmytree]

What are your views on the former President?

What about his effect on the economy?

And what about the attacks on our country? Is he to blame?

Discuss.

(Wikipedia has some good info on him).

[kimmytree]

As I said before, I really do like Clinton as a person. He has everything a good politician needs as far as personality. I've actually wanted to meet him for quite a number of years now because of that. I don't think he was a good president because of all of what went on during his presidency and all that went unchecked. I'm not really worried about the the sex scandal at this point so let's just skip that. I must say that lying about it and then getting caught wasn't exactly the most intelligent thing I've ever seen, however. You guys keep screaming "economy" but in all honesty what did he himself actually do? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the economy was already well on it's way to rising at the end of the first Bush's presidency. I'm trying so hard not to bring Bush into this simply because I'm sick and tired of it coming up EVERY single time someone even mentions how Clinton did. I think it's funny because it proves that they have little to work with and have to try and point the finger on someone else. Look at what Clinton had to deal with economic wise as opposed to our current President Bush.

Yeah, he's got the perfect personality as a politician. He's an amazing speaker. I dont think the whole sex scandal is that important of an issue anymore either. As far as the economy goes, his presidency included the longest period of economic growth in our history, mostly due to budget reforms. He made cutting the national debt a priority. There was an average economic growth of 4% a year, the economy grew for over one hundred consecutive months, the longest ever. Over 22 million jobs were created, the median family income increased significantly, and the unemployment dropped below 4%, the lowest its been since the 1960's. More people owned a home than ever before, and inflation dropped to its lowest rate in over 30 years. The number of welfare recipients dropped by the millions, and millions of people were out of poverty.

Unfortunately, I dont know all that much about Bush senior's presidency in detail, and on the economy. I just know that the statistics, that after Bush and Regan, the economy wasnt doing very well... and Clinton turned that all around.

I always hear how Clinton was so loved by other countries in the world. Yeah, that's because he liked to pretend that nothing wrong was going on in the world while be was kissing butt. Let's not forget that in the process North Korea started their weapons program and Al-Qaeda was plotting the biggest attack in history on America. I'm sure it seemed all too surreal that anyone would attempt to attack America and I'm sure that's what Clinton was thinking too. In his mind there was no terrorist threat. That's why he never acted of the numerous reports on possible attacks on U.S. soil. Let's not forget that he spent much of his time trying to cover his own actions with Ms. Lewinsky, but I digress.

Thats not necessarily true. We had no legitimate reasons to attack another country or to go to war. Its not like we just sat back and did nothing to protect ourselves during his presidency. Kissing whose butt?
Al-Qaeda's been planning attacks on everyone for what seems like forever. Clinton tried to capture Bin Laden. Alot of Republicans try to say that he had them and let them go, when thats not the case at all. From what I know, a Saudi civilian (not the government) claimed to have him. As a country, we've never negotiated with a civilian/middle man like that, and we werent going to then either. Yeah, Clinton could have done a little more to prevent terrorism, but look at all the warnings Bush and his cabinet recieved prior to 9/11. (look back at one of my earlier posts). Bush seems more to blame on that one than Clinton in my eyes.

I've heard numerous accounts on news channels (both CNN and Fox News, haha) talk about how Clinton should get credit for trying to help with Social Security and Medicare. He proposed a reform for both and thankfully, neither were accepted. The funding wasn't there and the "reforms" weren't at all reasonable. In a perfect world, maybe, but not in America. That being said, give me some programs that Clinton got passed that did help our economy. I'd like to hear a few because I'm having trouble thinking of any.

First off, as far as I know, we can thank Hilary for the whole Medicare thing that failed in Clinton's 1st term. Theres the Brady Bill, which required a five day waiting period on handgun purchases; the Earned Income Tax Credit, which benefits working class families with dependent children; in 1993 taxes were raised on the wealthiest Americans, while taxes were lowered for the lower/middle class, and tax cuts were made availible for small buisnesses; violent crime control and law enforcement act; welfare reform bill, millions towards a counter-terroirism agreement with israel to track down terrorists; increased the minimum wage; defense of marriage act, which defined marriage as being between a man and a woman; ect...

These are just a few points I'd like to bring up. My humble opinion on Clinton is that he wasn't that great of a president. I'm not going to sit here and say he was the worst ever because that kind of talk makes me just as upset as anyone saying he was better than Bush. Man, you guys got me to post in debate... You're terrible. Haha.

Hehe.

And while I'm at it, as I said on the last page, he wasn't a very liberal Democrat, so as you insist you're so moderate, I'm not entirely sure i understand why you're insisting Clinton wasn't a better president than Bush, when Clinton was much more moderate than Bush. From what you're saying, you should agree much more with Clinton's politics.

Thats true, Clinton was more of a moderate than a liberal. As far as the economy goes, he was definately more liberal. But as far as gay marriage and other moral issues, he was more moderate/conservative to a certain degree (besides the whole sex scandal... hah).