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Bill Clinton
kimmytree
post Oct 1 2006, 12:52 PM
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What are your views on the former President?

What about his effect on the economy?

And what about the attacks on our country? Is he to blame?

Discuss. _smile.gif

(Wikipedia has some good info on him).
 
 
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post Oct 4 2006, 10:40 PM
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^ Well I wasn't trying to amuse anyone anyways. And don't give me that " _dry.gif " look! Haha.

Niki (sp?), I'm on no high horse! I promise! Just some things I read in here get to me. I really shouldn't let them but they bother me. I am indeed a moderate. I don't ever just go with one side. I said before often times I find my self agreeing with democrats but it's the recent attitude that has been worrying me.

And I'm honestly not trying to "back out" because Micheal "pwned" me. I think that's silly of you to accuse me of doing such. It's almost as if you're calling me a liar. I sure hope not. You better have good reasoning to back that statement up. I respect Micheal's opinion a lot and I actually enjoy debating with him. I'd never give up a chance to argue with him on something I was being serious on. And if you hadn't noticed that first post was way out of character for me. That should have been everyone's first indication that I was being some what sarcastic.

Anyways, that's what you think and it's not at all true. Oh, ok... I'm sucked in. It's too late now. I will give my honest opinion on Clinton so me and Micheal may indeed debate.

As I said before, I really do like Clinton as a person. He has everything a good politician needs as far as personality. I've actually wanted to meet him for quite a number of years now because of that. I don't think he was a good president because of all of what went on during his presidency and all that went unchecked. I'm not really worried about the the sex scandal at this point so let's just skip that. I must say that lying about it and then getting caught wasn't exactly the most intelligent thing I've ever seen, however. You guys keep screaming "economy" but in all honesty what did he himself actually do? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the economy was already well on it's way to rising at the end of the first Bush's presidency. I'm trying so hard not to bring Bush into this simply because I'm sick and tired of it coming up EVERY single time someone even mentions how Clinton did. I think it's funny because it proves that they have little to work with and have to try and point the finger on someone else. Look at what Clinton had to deal with economic wise as opposed to our current President Bush.

Enough about that. Let me focus on some lesser things Clinton gets praised for.

I always hear how Clinton was so loved by other countries in the world. Yeah, that's because he liked to pretend that nothing wrong was going on in the world while be was kissing butt. Let's not forget that in the process North Korea started their weapons program and Al-Qaeda was plotting the biggest attack in history on America. I'm sure it seemed all too surreal that anyone would attempt to attack America and I'm sure that's what Clinton was thinking too. In his mind there was no terrorist threat. That's why he never acted of the numerous reports on possible attacks on U.S. soil. Let's not forget that he spent much of his time trying to cover his own actions with Ms. Lewinsky, but I digress.

I've heard numerous accounts on news channels (both CNN and Fox News, haha) talk about how Clinton should get credit for trying to help with Social Security and Medicare. He proposed a reform for both and thankfully, neither were accepted. The funding wasn't there and the "reforms" weren't at all reasonable. In a perfect world, maybe, but not in America. That being said, give me some programs that Clinton got passed that did help our economy. I'd like to hear a few because I'm having trouble thinking of any.

These are just a few points I'd like to bring up. My humble opinion on Clinton is that he wasn't that great of a president. I'm not going to sit here and say he was the worst ever because that kind of talk makes me just as upset as anyone saying he was better than Bush. Man, you guys got me to post in debate... You're terrible. Haha. happy.gif
 

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happykmd   Bill Clinton   Oct 1 2006, 12:52 PM
rawr SOCK   He did good for the economy. After all, he did ach...   Oct 1 2006, 01:00 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 1 2006, 2:00 PM) He...   Oct 1 2006, 01:02 PM
rawr SOCK   Would they have known anything when Clinton was st...   Oct 1 2006, 01:12 PM
happykmd   I agree. It happened 9 months into his presidency,...   Oct 1 2006, 01:14 PM
Statues/Shadows   Um, I disapprove of the Defense of Marriage Act pr...   Oct 1 2006, 03:23 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Oct 1 2006, 4:23 ...   Oct 1 2006, 06:19 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 7:19 PM) How...   Oct 1 2006, 07:43 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Oct 1 2006, 8:43 ...   Oct 1 2006, 08:02 PM
kryogenix   Bin Laden was pretty much offered to Clinton and h...   Oct 1 2006, 06:56 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 1 2006, 7:56 PM) Bi...   Oct 1 2006, 10:11 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(mipadi @ Oct 1 2006, 11:11 PM) Seve...   Oct 2 2006, 03:44 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 1 2006, 7:56 PM) An...   Oct 2 2006, 07:04 AM
kryogenix   Who's talking about Bush? I thought the topic ...   Oct 2 2006, 03:52 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 4:52 PM) Wh...   Oct 2 2006, 04:01 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 5:01 PM) I h...   Oct 2 2006, 05:58 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 6:58 PM) We...   Oct 3 2006, 10:28 AM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 5:58 PM) Ho...   Oct 10 2006, 04:35 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 4:52 PM) Oh...   Oct 2 2006, 04:08 PM
happykmd   I cant wait to see how she'll respond to that ...   Oct 2 2006, 04:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 5:17 PM) ...   Oct 2 2006, 06:11 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 7:11 PM) Ju...   Oct 2 2006, 06:24 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 7:24 PM) I w...   Oct 2 2006, 06:29 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 9:02 PM) You...   Oct 2 2006, 05:40 PM
hardxcoreL0VER   Everyone has their problems. Being famous comes wi...   Oct 2 2006, 05:56 PM
Synthetic.Love   Clinton was very good. The media he got with Hilar...   Oct 2 2006, 06:25 PM
happykmd   QUOTEFirst of all, I'm not talking to you. I w...   Oct 2 2006, 06:38 PM
kryogenix   I don't think I can take this debate seriously...   Oct 2 2006, 09:47 PM
happykmd   Yeah... true. I'm not exactly good at debating...   Oct 3 2006, 06:20 AM
kryogenix   It's no problem, the avatar sig combo was for ...   Oct 3 2006, 07:32 AM
happykmd   Yeah, I agree. I think Clinton is the least to bla...   Oct 3 2006, 07:00 PM
iRock cB   ^ My steady promise to stay out of this ignorant, ...   Oct 3 2006, 10:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 3 2006, 11:46 PM) ^ ...   Oct 3 2006, 11:28 PM
I Shot JFK   All praise michael. huzzah!   Oct 4 2006, 10:42 AM
happykmd   QUOTE^ My steady promise to stay out of this ignor...   Oct 4 2006, 12:22 PM
iRock cB   Actually Micheal, I am 18 and registered to vote. ...   Oct 4 2006, 08:51 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 4 2006, 9:51 PM) Act...   Oct 4 2006, 10:27 PM
Statues/Shadows   Yes, but you also said a bunch of crap about getti...   Oct 4 2006, 09:01 PM
kryogenix   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wotgKWWbtAs   Oct 4 2006, 10:11 PM
iRock cB   ^ Well I wasn't trying to amuse anyone anyways...   Oct 4 2006, 10:40 PM
Statues/Shadows   If only I had the energy to respond to that... I...   Oct 4 2006, 11:02 PM
happykmd   QUOTEAs I said before, I really do like Clinton as...   Oct 4 2006, 11:27 PM
iRock cB   ^ But can we really attribute that to Clinton hims...   Oct 5 2006, 07:27 AM
douchebag   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 5 2006, 7:27 AM) I d...   Oct 9 2006, 03:10 PM
Statues/Shadows   My point was that you are judging him, but I canno...   Oct 5 2006, 03:08 PM
I Shot JFK   Hi Justin   Oct 9 2006, 04:01 PM
kryogenix   Should I get back into this debate or not? It...   Oct 10 2006, 04:50 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 10 2006, 5:50 PM) S...   Oct 11 2006, 07:27 PM
Statues/Shadows   It amuses me that you just quoted David Cross.   Oct 10 2006, 08:08 PM
twinkles6801   I liked him better because our country had little ...   Nov 27 2006, 04:33 PM
happykmd   I agree. Clinton isnt completely responsible for t...   Nov 27 2006, 05:15 PM
Statues/Shadows   I'm still irked that Clinton's personal af...   Nov 29 2006, 11:08 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Nov 29 2006, 11:0...   Dec 3 2006, 12:28 AM


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