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Bill Clinton
kimmytree
post Oct 1 2006, 12:52 PM
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What are your views on the former President?

What about his effect on the economy?

And what about the attacks on our country? Is he to blame?

Discuss. _smile.gif

(Wikipedia has some good info on him).
 
 
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kimmytree
post Oct 4 2006, 12:22 PM
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^ My steady promise to stay out of this ignorant, close minded, one sided (no offence to anyone) debate form must come to an end for one moment. I honestly hope you'll admit to not knowing what you are talking about as opposed to acting like you do and continue this ranting. And this isn't a personal attack. You know me, I'm a nice guy. _smile.gif I really don't understand the general idea that Clinton was a better president than our current. He was no better. It's pretty bad when you lie to the people in your own country and to the people who put you in office. I'm not here to discuss Bush, but last I checked he didn't "lie" to the UN about WMD. Iraq did indeed have WMD but when the time came to check it out, Iraq already cleared them out. You guys watch a little too much CNN, huh?


How has this debate been one sided? Its been fairly equal, in my opinion. I'm not claiming to know everything. I'm just 17. But, I feel as if personally, im well informed of whats going on around me. So are you saying you know more about the subject than anyone else here? If so, why not try intelligently defending yourself.

I'm not trying to say that Clinton was an amazing President. He wasnt. He did wonders with the economy, and kept us safe; but made the mistake of lying to the American public about an affair. Thats what killed him. But, his lie didnt hurt anyone but himself, his wife, and his family. Think about it, who would admit to cheating on their spouse if occused? The only reason he admitted it was because he knew he couldnt get out of it.

How the hell were there weapons of mass destruction? I remember 3 years or so ago sitting in front of my tv when the UN was investigating, and thinking to myself that there werent really weapons. Bush LIED to us and the rest of the world that Iraq had WMD. At first, we were going along with the UN, like we usually do. But when the UN was finishing up investigations, we broke international law and went to war. Thats why the world hates us. Bush didnt want the UN to finish inspecting and show that there really werent weapons. Yeah, Clinton lied about his affair, but Bush's lie has so far killed 3,000 American soilders, injured tens of thousands, and taken the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

Hah, thats the typical ignorant response I expect from Republicans. I cant remember the last time I watched CNN. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with CNN. You need to stop basing your opinions on what Mommy and Daddy tell you, and stop watching Fox news or something. blink.gif

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Back to Clinton. I will honestly say I really like the man named Clinton. The president? Not so much. Sure, he's a nice guy, but he certainly wasn't a "good" president. And anyone who even tries to say he is will be ignored here after by myself because I really do not understand how anyone can come up with such a conclusion. Even with only 5 minutes of Google research under their belt, anyone with half a brain could figure that out. Ok, I won't ignore you... just seriously doubt your intellect, haha.


Are you kidding me? Oh, is that because you wont be able to defend yourself on why that is so? Why is Bush so much better than Clinton? Oh, please do share. I think its more of the other way around.

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Has America's standard really stooped so low? Or is this all a left wing attempt to glorify their previous president to make themselves look good before the next election? Let us hope for the sake of the future of this country it is indeed the latter. I have nothing against the democrats, please do not think I am some right winged extremist. I'm a moderate and often side with the democratic party but the extremist attitude I've been seeing in that party is really starting to get on my last nerve. You piss green and it's some how Bush's fault. And whoever said that we were "SAFE" under the Clinton Administration... well, I don't even think I have to say a word. At least I hope not. It kind of hurts that argument when you factor in that 95% of the events that lead up to 9/11 happened during the Clinton presidency and I don't ever remember him doing a damn thing about it. mellow.gif They even attacked and killed our soldiers on the U.S.S. Cole, an act of war, and not a finger was even raised.


Please read my first response in this post. Yes, terrorism was around when Clinton was in office. Terrorism has been a problem for decades around the world, we just werent faced with anything until the early 90's. Back in 1993 when the World Trade Center was attacked, Clinton went after and successfully prosecuted those involved. After that, there were a few minor attacks on embassys, but nothing comparable to the WTC or 9/11. September 11th happened 9 months into Bush's presidency. How is he not at least somewhat responsible.

The USS Cole bombings happened in October 2000, two months before Clinton was leaving office. How could he have possibly done something about it, when Al-Qaeda's involvement wasnt conclusive until the final days of his administration. Therefore, I feel as it was Bush's responsibility to prosecute those who were involved.
 

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happykmd   Bill Clinton   Oct 1 2006, 12:52 PM
rawr SOCK   He did good for the economy. After all, he did ach...   Oct 1 2006, 01:00 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 1 2006, 2:00 PM) He...   Oct 1 2006, 01:02 PM
rawr SOCK   Would they have known anything when Clinton was st...   Oct 1 2006, 01:12 PM
happykmd   I agree. It happened 9 months into his presidency,...   Oct 1 2006, 01:14 PM
Statues/Shadows   Um, I disapprove of the Defense of Marriage Act pr...   Oct 1 2006, 03:23 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Oct 1 2006, 4:23 ...   Oct 1 2006, 06:19 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 7:19 PM) How...   Oct 1 2006, 07:43 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Oct 1 2006, 8:43 ...   Oct 1 2006, 08:02 PM
kryogenix   Bin Laden was pretty much offered to Clinton and h...   Oct 1 2006, 06:56 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 1 2006, 7:56 PM) Bi...   Oct 1 2006, 10:11 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(mipadi @ Oct 1 2006, 11:11 PM) Seve...   Oct 2 2006, 03:44 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 1 2006, 7:56 PM) An...   Oct 2 2006, 07:04 AM
kryogenix   Who's talking about Bush? I thought the topic ...   Oct 2 2006, 03:52 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 4:52 PM) Wh...   Oct 2 2006, 04:01 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 5:01 PM) I h...   Oct 2 2006, 05:58 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 6:58 PM) We...   Oct 3 2006, 10:28 AM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 5:58 PM) Ho...   Oct 10 2006, 04:35 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 4:52 PM) Oh...   Oct 2 2006, 04:08 PM
happykmd   I cant wait to see how she'll respond to that ...   Oct 2 2006, 04:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 5:17 PM) ...   Oct 2 2006, 06:11 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2006, 7:11 PM) Ju...   Oct 2 2006, 06:24 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 2 2006, 7:24 PM) I w...   Oct 2 2006, 06:29 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 9:02 PM) You...   Oct 2 2006, 05:40 PM
hardxcoreL0VER   Everyone has their problems. Being famous comes wi...   Oct 2 2006, 05:56 PM
Synthetic.Love   Clinton was very good. The media he got with Hilar...   Oct 2 2006, 06:25 PM
happykmd   QUOTEFirst of all, I'm not talking to you. I w...   Oct 2 2006, 06:38 PM
kryogenix   I don't think I can take this debate seriously...   Oct 2 2006, 09:47 PM
happykmd   Yeah... true. I'm not exactly good at debating...   Oct 3 2006, 06:20 AM
kryogenix   It's no problem, the avatar sig combo was for ...   Oct 3 2006, 07:32 AM
happykmd   Yeah, I agree. I think Clinton is the least to bla...   Oct 3 2006, 07:00 PM
iRock cB   ^ My steady promise to stay out of this ignorant, ...   Oct 3 2006, 10:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 3 2006, 11:46 PM) ^ ...   Oct 3 2006, 11:28 PM
I Shot JFK   All praise michael. huzzah!   Oct 4 2006, 10:42 AM
happykmd   QUOTE^ My steady promise to stay out of this ignor...   Oct 4 2006, 12:22 PM
iRock cB   Actually Micheal, I am 18 and registered to vote. ...   Oct 4 2006, 08:51 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 4 2006, 9:51 PM) Act...   Oct 4 2006, 10:27 PM
Statues/Shadows   Yes, but you also said a bunch of crap about getti...   Oct 4 2006, 09:01 PM
kryogenix   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wotgKWWbtAs   Oct 4 2006, 10:11 PM
iRock cB   ^ Well I wasn't trying to amuse anyone anyways...   Oct 4 2006, 10:40 PM
Statues/Shadows   If only I had the energy to respond to that... I...   Oct 4 2006, 11:02 PM
happykmd   QUOTEAs I said before, I really do like Clinton as...   Oct 4 2006, 11:27 PM
iRock cB   ^ But can we really attribute that to Clinton hims...   Oct 5 2006, 07:27 AM
douchebag   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Oct 5 2006, 7:27 AM) I d...   Oct 9 2006, 03:10 PM
Statues/Shadows   My point was that you are judging him, but I canno...   Oct 5 2006, 03:08 PM
I Shot JFK   Hi Justin   Oct 9 2006, 04:01 PM
kryogenix   Should I get back into this debate or not? It...   Oct 10 2006, 04:50 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 10 2006, 5:50 PM) S...   Oct 11 2006, 07:27 PM
Statues/Shadows   It amuses me that you just quoted David Cross.   Oct 10 2006, 08:08 PM
twinkles6801   I liked him better because our country had little ...   Nov 27 2006, 04:33 PM
happykmd   I agree. Clinton isnt completely responsible for t...   Nov 27 2006, 05:15 PM
Statues/Shadows   I'm still irked that Clinton's personal af...   Nov 29 2006, 11:08 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Nov 29 2006, 11:0...   Dec 3 2006, 12:28 AM


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