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Christianity and Sex, ... I just want to know how other Christians interpret this
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post Sep 10 2006, 12:20 AM
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It'd be really great if the Christians would reply to this topic, because I'm relating sex to Christianity... not to "OMG, Christianity is stupid and blah blah blah don't listen to the Bible, blah blah blah". But do what you will, it doesn't really matter.

I'm non-denominational, but I'm going to a Methodist church (Just clearing that up, because I'm pretty sure different sects see this differently). We just had a series of sermons about marriage, and as part of this series, the pastor talked about sex.

Basically, what he said is that sex is not a bad thing. It's a pleasure that God created for us and something meant for us to actually enjoy. It's like a gift. The thing about sex is that when done properly (properly as in with your spouse, or someone you love) it's a beautiful thing, but when people take the "gift" of sex and turn it into trash, then it can become destructive.

So many people view Christianity as "be abstinate because if you're not, that's a sin, etc etc etc." But, if you really think about it...

Sex CAN be destructive when abused. I'm sure there are tons of people here who have regretted having sex with a certain person from time to time.

And at the same time, with the right person and at the right time, sex is beautiful.



How do you interpret Christianity and it's view on sex?
 
 
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post Sep 17 2006, 03:05 AM
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Basically, what he said is that sex is not a bad thing. It's a pleasure that God created for us and something meant for us to actually enjoy. It's like a gift. The thing about sex is that when done properly (properly as in with your spouse, or someone you love) it's a beautiful thing, but when people take the "gift" of sex and turn it into trash, then it can become destructive.




Sex isnt beautiful, when you get get raped.

it's an unexpected gift ... and turn it into trash, it can become destructive.





explain that. ermm.gif
 
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post Sep 17 2006, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Sep 17 2006, 3:05 AM) *
Sex isnt beautiful, when you get get raped.

it's an unexpected gift ... and turn it into trash, it can become destructive.





explain that. ermm.gif



She said when done properly with someone you love it is beautiful.

okay so, I studied this for a long time. I think of myself as a good Christian by my own standards. I don't attend church because I was tired of the pressure of things like "do communion once a month" at one church and "no you can't do communion unless you are baptized into the church and only do it once a year" at the next church. And I kept thinking is this going to keep me out of heaven? I hope not. If god is sitting up there tallying all the communions I should have taken, I might as well give up now. so I left all that crap behind and I worship on my own time. Having said that...

I have been sexually active since I was 15, and at that time I didn't care. I care now though. I'm in a 4 year relationship with the man I plan on marrying. but I cant and wont for a lot of reasons. So I had to find some answers on sex outside of marriage and all that. Heres what I have found. no where in the bible does it actually say you have to save yourself for marriage.

What a lot of people don't understand is that marriage was not the holy ceremony that it is today. It was a business transaction. Fathers gave their daughters as wives in exchange for land and things. The only reference to punishment in regards to sex, was in regards to lowering property value. If you are giving half of your land away for say a car, do you want a nice brand new never been used car, or do you want one thats been driven aruond the country a few times. you want the best right? So its the same with women. girls who were vigins were worth more because they were pure and unused. Clean. You know how men like new toys. :) SO! for a man to lie with a woman was basically stealing from her father, and her future husband. Because you were lowering her value.

THE ONLY TIME IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE SEX AND MARRIAGE ARE RECOMMENDED (I'm serious, the only time) is when Paul was addressing the Romans I think (dont hold me to that i forgot). they were having sex rituals in these temples and Paul was like, dude, if you gotta f**k so much, please, take a wife. Now, I don't know about you, but God is pretty direct in the bible. Don't steal, don't cheat, don't lie, etc etc. Why did God never say flat out, don't have sex outside of wedlock. Because that is a stigma brought about years after the bible was written. People feared sex so much, that it became this evil thing. Much like alcohol, (let us remember Jesus' first miracle, turn water to wine) sex is only dangerous when abused. and people abused it needless to say. And so the leaders of the church, like they have been known to do throughout history, manipulated the texts to say hese things. The Verses they use to support this aren't even in the same chapters. It goes to show you can make words mean anything. and its very true in this case.

I honestly believe that if God wanted sex to be so bad and it was so important to save for marriage, it would have been said there in black and white. Gods rules are so specific. Thats one reason I love to be a Christian. I can read the bible and I can understand what God wants from me. So why would God be so vague on this issue? i mean, the book of solomon is chock full of sexually explicit verses, so much that it was removed from the bible for a long period of time. This is what man has done. Just as man has made the gift of sex dirty, hurtful, and dangerous.

The reason I did all of this research (I'm talking a month or so) is because personally I was so conflicted about my actions. I love my boyfriend, and we have been together for 4 years, and we just arent ready to get married. We don't want to get married until we are ready to settle down and have a family, and because of my career, I won't be ready to do that for many years. And we are young and cant afford to support a family. but many people younger than us who have dated for a fourth of the time are already married with kids. And so I felt some mixed feelings about sex with him and then staying in good graces with God. So I just started learning. I figured God would give me the right answer. My boyfriend and I were both raised religious, and so if I said hey, I feel like I am sinning, I don't want to do this, he would 100% support me. So I asked God to lead me and I found so much information. and the biggest point is that, there was no white dress. There was no great ceremony. There wasn't even lovehalf the time. It was business. Strictly busniess. So I know for a fact that most of the women in the United states arent being married off by their fathers to men twice their age for a business deal, so the old ways don't apply. And back then, if you broke the rule and had sex outside of marriage, you were either stealing from the father or husband like I said, and you were stoned. No one is stoning people in the streets. And taking into account what Paul said about the men having too much sex, was for them to take a wife if they must have sex all the time. I think that just shows to refrain from doing it in excess. and of course we as a society never know when to stop, and so I think in that case the same applies to us today. Moderation. Because anything good can become bad in excess. oxygen can be bad in excess, and we need it to live. and Paul had a reputation for being very blunt and brutal. and he didn't say "take your sins you whore and go beg for forgiveness" he said "if yuo can't stop having sex, go get a wife and do her all the time." of course not in so many words lol. But Paul was the finger pointer. He called people sinners right and left and told people to repent, and why in this case was he so lenient? so yeah. Thats all I have to say.
 

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[X]poised   Christianity and Sex   Sep 10 2006, 12:20 AM
bobby james   I think it's on point, it's saying sex is ...   Sep 10 2006, 12:36 AM
JakeKKing   Well, basically sex inside the confines of marriag...   Sep 17 2006, 12:23 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTEBasically, what he said is that sex is not a ...   Sep 17 2006, 03:05 AM
starlette   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Sep 17 2006, 3...   Sep 17 2006, 03:36 AM
[X]poised   You just took everything that's been swimming ...   Sep 17 2006, 08:51 AM
kryogenix   From the Cathecism: 2353 Fornication is carnal un...   Sep 17 2006, 06:22 PM
[X]poised   But then again, Catholics have always been weird.....   Sep 17 2006, 08:29 PM
digital.fragrance   Sex before marriage (during engagement, with a par...   Sep 17 2006, 08:32 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Sep 17 2006, 6...   Sep 17 2006, 11:29 PM
starlette   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Sep 17 2006, 8...   Sep 18 2006, 12:13 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Sep 17 2006, 5...   Jan 18 2007, 05:32 PM
mipadi   Christianity and sex has a very interesting histor...   Sep 21 2006, 10:42 AM
This Confession   Yea, Sex isn't a bad thing. I just don't t...   Sep 24 2006, 10:13 PM
Heath21   I see myself as being a Christian but not a religi...   Jan 18 2007, 05:19 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   I don't see anything wrong with sex before mar...   Jan 18 2007, 11:08 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Jan 18 2007, 8...   Jan 18 2007, 11:23 PM
IVIike   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Jan 19 2007, 12...   Jan 19 2007, 11:24 PM


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