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bible/religion as fact
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post Jul 18 2006, 11:32 PM
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In nearly every debate, people always seem to insist on using "I believe this because of my religion" or "it's in the bible."

However, are these actual valid foundations for debate?
 
 
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post Sep 10 2006, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 9 2006, 8:16 PM) *
I'm surprised that with a Muslim friend, you don't understand the religion. My best friend knows I have no affinity for religion and she, like your friend, is a Muslim. By not understanding, I mean that you are blaming Islam for terrorists. You must understand that there are radicals and fundamentalists in almost every religion, for example, the Klu Klux Klan supports a white, Christian nation. And, believe it or not, the KKK uses the Bible to support of their reason for hate.

Just because a holy scripture of one religion is used for hate does not mean that the Scripture is hate. When you say that the Qu'ran is flawed because it is an inspiration for hate to suicide bombers, you might as well say that the Bible is an inspiration for hate to the KKK.

You're saying that being Muslim does not give the right for Tama to attack any religion, but you are have been attacking his religion in turn. You guys are really birds of the same feather, or haven't you noticed?

You're getting me wrong, I am in NO way blaming Islam for terrorrism. My response was to his statement saying
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The Qur'an is more authentic than the Bible... and Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qur'an as well. Plus the Bible is one big book of contradictions anyways, where as the Qur'an has no flaws.

I didn't come off as an attacking bitch like he did. It was simply retaliation. If a Christian should have said that the Bible was a book with no flaws, I would have used the KKK example. I am not a Christian, I am not a Muslim, I'm Agnostic. It seems that you do not understand. I will not apologize to Tamacracker for anything I have said. I do admit that I think the Bible has got some contradictions but that doesn't give me the right to 'insult' it the way Tamacracker is doing.

Let me make myself clear; if a CHRISTIAN was acting like Tamacracker (like an idiot) I would defend Islam. I find it to be STUPID when believers think their way is the only way. It's repulsive, you know why? They're all in the same boat, Islam / Christianism / whatever.

I am not like Tamacracker, thank you. I've got a brain.

QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 9 2006, 11:05 PM) *
We don't need to convert you... we don't care about converting. Yes it's nice to convert because Allah rewards you. But Islam can careless for conversions...
I'm a typical Muslim? You're such a disgusting biggot, if you said that in my face.... lol Oh man you're funny. Talk that hatred outside of your house there little boy. Unless you live in Texas or one of those midwest states, then it wouldn't matter, you're all the same. See how this works? You wanna generalize my religion? I can generalize you right back where it hurts.... "small pecker". (that's for disrespecting Prophet Muhammad)

But you know what? You again showed proof of racism/hatred...

Why don't you shut the f-ck up? You're all almost the same (f-cking believers who think that your Religion is better that other Religions). And you think you can 'hurt' me? Hahaha, Osama, this is the internet, you can do NOTHING, idiot. I am a girl, I live in Belgium, come find me fool.
It would be SO much fun when you find out there's no God.

QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 9 2006, 11:14 PM) *
That aside, Sandra, you attitude is partly resonsible for the Islamic people who DO become suicide bombers. A little more understanding, and a little less boom.

How intelligent James. Blame me / people like me for suicide bombing. That statement is pure nonesence. A little more understanding for what?

In my opinion, Religion = hate. Be it Christianism / Islam.
 
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post Sep 11 2006, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 10 2006, 12:41 PM) *
You're getting me wrong, I am in NO way blaming Islam for terrorrism. My response was to his statement saying
I didn't come off as an attacking bitch like he did. It was simply retaliation. If a Christian should have said that the Bible was a book with no flaws, I would have used the KKK example. I am not a Christian, I am not a Muslim, I'm Agnostic. It seems that you do not understand. I will not apologize to Tamacracker for anything I have said. I do admit that I think the Bible has got some contradictions but that doesn't give me the right to 'insult' it the way Tamacracker is doing.

Let me make myself clear; if a CHRISTIAN was acting like Tamacracker (like an idiot) I would defend Islam. I find it to be STUPID when believers think their way is the only way. It's repulsive, you know why? They're all in the same boat, Islam / Christianism / whatever.

I am not like Tamacracker, thank you. I've got a brain.
Why don't you shut the f-ck up? You're all almost the same (f-cking believers who think that your Religion is better that other Religions). And you think you can 'hurt' me? Hahaha, Osama, this is the internet, you can do NOTHING, idiot. I am a girl, I live in Belgium, come find me fool.
It would be SO much fun when you find out there's no God.
How intelligent James. Blame me / people like me for suicide bombing. That statement is pure nonesence. A little more understanding for what?

In my opinion, Religion = hate. Be it Christianism / Islam.


I'm only getting you wrong, Sandra, because you gave me a wrong impression of yourself when you use the same kind of insult tatic he did. That's where the proverbial birds of a feather comes into play.

As for Tama, if he doesn't understand that his kind of "argument" (more like insults to me) is the crux of why people are attacking Islam in this forum, I have nothing further to contribute.
 

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Statues/Shadows   bible/religion as fact   Jul 18 2006, 11:32 PM
I Shot JFK   no. just because it is fashionable to exalt faith ...   Jul 19 2006, 08:25 AM
Angelina Taylor   It's not factual.. It's good for morals an...   Jul 19 2006, 08:34 AM
iRock cB   ^I agree. I don't think it's a good idea t...   Jul 19 2006, 04:17 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 19 2006, 10:17 PM) ^...   Jul 19 2006, 04:58 PM
iRock cB   ^ Right, that's what I said. Usually the thing...   Jul 19 2006, 07:39 PM
I Shot JFK   i know thats what you said, i was reinforcing. al...   Jul 20 2006, 10:38 AM
ChaosPunx   Some things that happened in the past where record...   Jul 21 2006, 09:34 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   It's kind of stupid. debating is about using...   Jul 22 2006, 03:14 PM
Libertie   As someone who was raised in a Christian home, I h...   Jul 22 2006, 10:11 PM
Evil_One1   If you took the Bible away, there would be nothing...   Jul 28 2006, 10:19 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Evil_One1 @ Jul 28 2006, 10:19 PM) ...   Aug 10 2006, 10:05 AM
Uronacid   I believe that most of the arguments brought up in...   Aug 15 2006, 11:22 AM
cassjamminx   some things i just think people.. made up for the ...   Aug 15 2006, 08:35 PM
yrrnotelekktric   QUOTE(cassjamminx @ Aug 15 2006, 5:35 PM)...   Aug 24 2006, 11:45 PM
promenade   What I think is that morality is how you choose to...   Aug 24 2006, 07:05 PM
bobby james   Some stuff in the Bible is fact or better yet will...   Aug 25 2006, 02:44 AM
I Shot JFK   ^ yes, because there was NOTHING corrupt at all ab...   Aug 25 2006, 06:37 AM
bobby james   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Aug 25 2006, 4:37 AM) ...   Aug 25 2006, 09:28 PM
Tamacracker   The Qur'an is more authentic than the Bible......   Sep 5 2006, 03:56 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 4:56 PM) ...   Sep 5 2006, 04:23 PM
digital.fragrance   ^ How does the Bible have contradictions? Sure, i...   Sep 5 2006, 04:02 PM
Tamacracker   I know religion is a very sensitive subject... but...   Sep 5 2006, 04:10 PM
digital.fragrance   Sure, go for it.   Sep 5 2006, 04:14 PM
Tamacracker   Also if you haven't studied the Egyptian belie...   Sep 5 2006, 04:21 PM
digital.fragrance   ^ I was about to ask for the specific references f...   Sep 5 2006, 04:24 PM
Tamacracker   http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/pau...radic...   Sep 5 2006, 04:41 PM
digital.fragrance   So many of those verses are taken out of context. ...   Sep 5 2006, 04:54 PM
Tamacracker   Wasn't it the Romans who had a court system wh...   Sep 5 2006, 05:13 PM
kryogenix   ROFL. You don't know how to read. Go look up t...   Sep 5 2006, 06:57 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 5 2006, 7:57 PM) Se...   Sep 6 2006, 03:25 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 6 2006, 4:25 PM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 08:22 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 7 2006, 9:22 AM) Th...   Sep 7 2006, 11:51 AM
chaneun   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 5 2006, 7:57 PM) Se...   Sep 8 2006, 03:10 PM
Zatanna   I have to run out for an interview, but I really f...   Sep 7 2006, 08:57 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Zatanna @ Sep 7 2006, 9:57 AM) I ha...   Sep 7 2006, 12:26 PM
Zatanna   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 7 2006, 1:26 PM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 01:25 PM
Born in a burial gown   I just read the whole Qu'ran and Bible argumen...   Sep 7 2006, 12:10 PM
Born in a burial gown   Hahaha. If I am a disgrace to the 'human race...   Sep 7 2006, 12:38 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 7 2006, 1...   Sep 7 2006, 12:44 PM
Born in a burial gown   You're welcome. I don't give a shit. *beg...   Sep 7 2006, 12:51 PM
Born in a burial gown   Zatanna you're just too good. One of the thing...   Sep 7 2006, 01:33 PM
Tamacracker   I'm not telling anyone to convert to Islam... ...   Sep 7 2006, 02:07 PM
Zatanna   I can give a few: from dictionary.com QUOTEpa...   Sep 7 2006, 02:34 PM
Tamacracker   Pretty good explaination. But isn't there more...   Sep 7 2006, 05:00 PM
kryogenix   Tamacracker, you are walking on thin ice for you c...   Sep 7 2006, 06:17 PM
Tamacracker   Jesus is God so there goes that. Now, I asked in a...   Sep 8 2006, 01:01 AM
kryogenix   [quote name='Tamacracker' post='2274315' date='Sep...   Sep 9 2006, 10:10 PM
Zatanna   ^ Eeek with the double posting. Please don't...   Sep 8 2006, 07:37 AM
Tamacracker   Well I can use many other sources as well... from ...   Sep 8 2006, 05:33 PM
Born in a burial gown   Tamacracker, I am very open minded, even though I...   Sep 9 2006, 12:04 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 9 2006, 1...   Sep 9 2006, 04:05 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 9 2006, 12...   Sep 9 2006, 01:16 PM
I Shot JFK   ^ She is a girl, she lives in Belgium, and there i...   Sep 9 2006, 04:14 PM
Tamacracker   Ah that explains her hatred... just like them twin...   Sep 9 2006, 04:18 PM
I Shot JFK   Oh, i have the worst typing skills in the world, i...   Sep 9 2006, 04:21 PM
Born in a burial gown   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 9 2006, 8:16 PM...   Sep 10 2006, 12:41 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 10 2006, 12...   Sep 11 2006, 11:39 AM
I Shot JFK   Well, I DO blame the attitudes of people who attac...   Sep 10 2006, 01:00 PM
Born in a burial gown   I am perfectly aware that it doesn't say in th...   Sep 10 2006, 01:10 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 10 2006, 2...   Sep 10 2006, 05:25 PM
I Shot JFK   I am not solely blaming you, stop being melodramat...   Sep 10 2006, 01:42 PM
Born in a burial gown   Ha! Sarcasm isn't your strongest point Jam...   Sep 10 2006, 01:52 PM
I Shot JFK   There wasn't any sarcasm involved in the last ...   Sep 10 2006, 03:12 PM
Born in a burial gown   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 10 2006, 10:12 PM)...   Sep 11 2006, 11:21 AM
Born in a burial gown   I came off as a Racist (I just read my posts) whic...   Sep 11 2006, 11:43 AM
Spirited Away   I know what you mean and it's okay now that yo...   Sep 11 2006, 12:06 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 11 2006, 1:06 P...   Sep 11 2006, 12:16 PM
Born in a burial gown   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 11 2006, 7:16 PM) W...   Sep 11 2006, 12:26 PM
Born in a burial gown   Oui, t'as raison. Ils sont fous. Wow, I say cr...   Sep 11 2006, 12:15 PM
No Fear   All this argument is why I should bring in my reli...   Sep 11 2006, 12:19 PM
Born in a burial gown   Eddie, you're evil.   Sep 11 2006, 12:23 PM
Spirited Away   No, James, of course I don't mean you. You I c...   Sep 11 2006, 12:23 PM
No Fear   QUOTE(Born in a burial gown @ Sep 11 2006, 1...   Sep 11 2006, 12:24 PM
No Fear   It's really working? I thought I can only infl...   Sep 11 2006, 12:29 PM
Born in a burial gown   I can't resist hot people.   Sep 11 2006, 12:31 PM
No Fear   Yeah neither can I, it's hopeless for me to re...   Sep 11 2006, 12:32 PM
Born in a burial gown   *Faints* I'm all yours Eddie.   Sep 11 2006, 12:35 PM
Libertie   Alright, Eddie and Sandra, take it somewhere else ...   Sep 11 2006, 12:37 PM
Born in a burial gown   QUOTE(Libertie @ Sep 11 2006, 7:37 PM) Al...   Sep 11 2006, 12:43 PM
No Fear   ^ Sorry Dani, guess we got a little carried away.....   Sep 11 2006, 12:39 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Jul 18 2006, 8:32...   Jan 18 2007, 05:51 PM


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