bible/religion as fact Options

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In nearly every debate, people always seem to insist on using "I believe this because of my religion" or "it's in the bible."

However, are these actual valid foundations for debate?

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Well I can use many other sources as well... from different religions, from philosophy, metaphysics, book of the dead..

Just to let you know, I was born Roman Catholic, then baptised into the Baptist sect of Christianity... never had a spiritual bond with God, maybe because I was praying to Jesus and askin Jesus to forgive my sins, and to help me and so on...

Then I became atheist after learning the facts of Christianity such as how it began, how did it spread, why did it spread, and also how badly it has been modified through out the centuries. What I find most disgusting in my opinion is the different sects of Christianity, how they pick and choose parts of the religion to benefit their life styles. We are the subjects of God yet we go modifying his texts and dividing his religion into "sub" religions or "sects".

Anyways, then after 9/11... and the horrific amount of lies that Bush brought to our ears, I started to think... "well he's lied about soo much as it is, he's probably lying about Islam too" Thanks to Bush and his tactics, I converted to Islam. And now I feel very spiritually connected, heck even my prayers feel like I'm meditating, now that's a "spiritual bond" with God.

Anyways, I know she/he claimed that Catholics do not worship idols... but the fact is God has no partners. That includes confessions/prayers, this person admitting that they ask for Mary or Jesus, or Gabriel, or Daniel who ever to help them speak to God is basically admitting that in the Catholic religion, God in fact DOES have partners... Your spiritual bond with God is between you and God only.. no one or anything for that matter exists.

All of God's creations have a purpose, such as his Prophets, his prophet's followers, heaven, Mary, and the Messiah.

1. We try to be like the Prophets, they are prophets because of the spcial bond they had with God. Our goal is to live our lives like the Prophets by following the laws of God.

a. Our Prophets gave us examples of everyday life and those Prophets gave us literature to follow the guidance.

2. Prophets' followers were people who only helped back up the literature of the Prophets with stories.

3. Mary the mother of Jesus, was the vessel of Jesus and his first apostle (though they say that's a bit sketchy, Mary being Jesus' first apostle/follower) We may praise her for being the vessel of Jesus, but nothing more... she's not on God's level.

4. Jesus is our savior, the savior of the human race. Believing in what God has revealed to us is the only way to be saved by Jesus, the Messiah.