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ric22
post Sep 3 2006, 05:59 AM
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Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information.
After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, Islam remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n1..._200110043.html

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3
http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

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http://catstevens.com/discography/people/00001.html

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ric22
post Sep 6 2006, 05:54 AM
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I really don’t like misunderstanding of my intentions, It is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion.in the same time I don't outbid on Islam , it doesn't need any preaching or missionary work or me.

It is unreasonable to think that so many American converted to Islam without careful consideration and deep contemplation. before concluding that Islam is true.

These Americans came from different classes, races and walks of life. They include scientists, professors, philosophers, journalists, doctors, nurses, teachers, artists, lawmakers, chefs, laborers, and every other sort of person imaginable.


Regarding the questionable marriages, back in the 7th century, Prophet Mohammed marraige was accepted by all religions and laws of that age.

The Jewish religion even says that a man can have intercourse with a girl that is 3 years and one day old [muslims dont beleive that, and the Jews probably dont implement this now]

Even up untill a hundred years ago, the offical age of consent for a girl was as young as the age of 10 in the USA.

It was reported in the British Media a few years ago, that a girl aged 9 became pregnant after having sex with a 10 year old girl, And many girls are being married around the age of 10 in many African countires [muslim and non muslim countries] . This proves that a girl can concieve at that age.

And if a girl is brought up according to Gods religion, then she is much more mature [mentaly and attitude wise] then a girl of the modern secualr era.

Also we have to take peoples life expectancy into consideration back in the 7th century, the life expectancy back then was a lot shorter then it is now thus it was natural for girls to be married as early as possible.


Islamic guide is for non-Muslims who would like to understand Islam
www.islam-guide.com
http://www.understanding-islam.com/
 
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post Sep 7 2006, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Ric @ Sep 6 2006, 6:54 AM) *
I really don’t like misunderstanding of my intentions, It is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion.in the same time I don't outbid on Islam , it doesn't need any preaching or missionary work or me.

It is unreasonable to think that so many American converted to Islam without careful consideration and deep contemplation. before concluding that Islam is true.

These Americans came from different classes, races and walks of life. They include scientists, professors, philosophers, journalists, doctors, nurses, teachers, artists, lawmakers, chefs, laborers, and every other sort of person imaginable.


Fallacy. If you want to count conversions, Christianity wins. It converted its oppressors, the Roman Empire.

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Regarding the questionable marriages, back in the 7th century, Prophet Mohammed marraige was accepted by all religions and laws of that age.

The Jewish religion even says that a man can have intercourse with a girl that is 3 years and one day old [muslims dont beleive that, and the Jews probably dont implement this now]

Even up untill a hundred years ago, the offical age of consent for a girl was as young as the age of 10 in the USA.

It was reported in the British Media a few years ago, that a girl aged 9 became pregnant after having sex with a 10 year old girl, And many girls are being married around the age of 10 in many African countires [muslim and non muslim countries] . This proves that a girl can concieve at that age.

And if a girl is brought up according to Gods religion, then she is much more mature [mentaly and attitude wise] then a girl of the modern secualr era.

Also we have to take peoples life expectancy into consideration back in the 7th century, the life expectancy back then was a lot shorter then it is now thus it was natural for girls to be married as early as possible.
Islamic guide is for non-Muslims who would like to understand Islam
www.islam-guide.com
http://www.understanding-islam.com/


I'm a bit skeptical of this. It's rare enough for a girl that young, but for a girl to be impregnated by another young girl?

As for Mohammed's marriage to Aisha, maybe she was 9 but not prepubscent. I can believe that. However, it's still a bit odd for a much older man to do such a thing, as well as marry multiple women when, as far as I know, Jewish law barred that.
 

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Ric   Trend   Sep 3 2006, 05:59 AM
The E-Man   Wait so what? What are we discussing?   Sep 3 2006, 06:07 AM
kryogenix   The fastest growing fallacy   Sep 3 2006, 12:18 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 3 2006, 1:18 PM) Th...   Sep 5 2006, 06:29 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 7:29 PM) ...   Sep 5 2006, 06:43 PM
Ric   From what I've heard from different people who...   Sep 4 2006, 04:10 AM
Tamacracker   I advise you to study a little deeper into Islam.....   Sep 5 2006, 06:50 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 7:50 PM) ...   Sep 5 2006, 06:58 PM
Tamacracker   Because you're simply using sources from Weste...   Sep 5 2006, 07:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 8:12 PM) ...   Sep 5 2006, 10:11 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 5 2006, 11:11 PM) L...   Sep 5 2006, 10:40 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 5 2006, 11:40 PM)...   Sep 6 2006, 06:59 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 6 2006, 7:59 AM) If...   Sep 6 2006, 03:10 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 6 2006, 4:10 PM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 06:42 PM
Ric   I really don’t like misunderstanding of my i...   Sep 6 2006, 05:54 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Ric @ Sep 6 2006, 6:54 AM) I really...   Sep 7 2006, 04:34 PM
Tamacracker   Oh yeah.. I remember now, Islam is jealous of our ...   Sep 8 2006, 01:09 AM
kryogenix   Why? You can't respond to the points I make? W...   Sep 9 2006, 10:14 PM
Tamacracker   You actually haven't proved me wrong yet... we...   Sep 9 2006, 10:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 9 2006, 11:46 PM)...   Sep 10 2006, 01:05 AM
HearrrtBreakerrr   Go kryogenix! lol just had to say that. i di...   Sep 10 2006, 08:08 AM
Tamacracker   Negative I'm not wrong... you cannot understan...   Sep 10 2006, 11:38 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 11 2006, 12:38 AM...   Sep 11 2006, 09:35 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 11 2006, 9:35 AM) A...   Sep 11 2006, 10:32 AM
Zatanna   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 11 2006, 12:38 AM...   Sep 11 2006, 10:47 AM
Ric   Although there’s no relation between Islam a...   Sep 25 2006, 07:26 AM
kryogenix   I think the report's been denied already. and...   Sep 25 2006, 10:54 PM
Ric   I really don’t like misunderstanding of my i...   Sep 30 2006, 07:15 AM
Ric   Guy's! I ask of you no reward for this (Me...   Oct 15 2006, 04:13 AM


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