bible/religion as fact Options

[*Statues/Shadows*]

In nearly every debate, people always seem to insist on using "I believe this because of my religion" or "it's in the bible."

However, are these actual valid foundations for debate?

[*Zatanna*]

I have to run out for an interview, but I really felt a need to touch upon one thing that is being said here.

Praying to anyone or anything for that matter other than God is a sin... that's paganism. That's something the Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians did.

God has no partners, so askin from Jesus or Mary is still blasphemy.

I thought that one of the virtues of being a believe in God is the idea of acceptance and love, regardless of beliefs (or disbeliefs). If that is the case, then aren't you a sinner as well?

Also, do you know the roots of Paganism? Many Pagans practice a nature-based idea of living and being. It's about being at peace with the world, and its inhabitants. It is absolutely not always synonymous with devil worship or anything of the like. That is a misconception caused by the phenomenon of social colloquiums.

Not everything you read should be taken as definitive truth, especially if you are basing your truth on that which you find on the internet. There is bias and interpretation everywhere, including the bible (which has many translations and revisions).

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I have to run out for an interview, but I really felt a need to touch upon one thing that is being said here.
I thought that one of the virtues of being a believe in God is the idea of acceptance and love, regardless of beliefs (or disbeliefs). If that is the case, then aren't you a sinner as well?


Not exactly, if you've studied the OT... you will learn that even Moses himself killed infidels/kafirs or in other words disbelievers. That's the other problem with Christianity, they destroyed the true message of God and Jesus, simply making Christians weaker and tooo forgiving. If someone killed my mother in front of me, I would attempt to kill them... I would not forgive them. A Christian on the other hand is very easy to oppress, God frowns upon oppressors but also those who believe God wants them to not fight back.



Also, do you know the roots of Paganism? Many Pagans practice a nature-based idea of living and being. It's about being at peace with the world, and its inhabitants. It is absolutely not always synonymous with devil worship or anything of the like. That is a misconception caused by the phenomenon of social colloquiums.


Not believing in one God but multpile Gods, is paganism. Not believing in a God to begin with is also paganism. Oh and Egyptians were pagans... specially with the fact they they claimed to have many different Gods of all elements and animals etc.. also they were into mysticism and alchemy, in order to prove they were some sort of powerful God. So I guess back then, if Albert Einstein traveled to the past, he would have been God of all Gods? I dunno.
But paganism has nothin to do with worshipping satan, atleast thinkin you're worshipping satan.


This is my proper understanding of Paganism from Wikipedia

Not everything you read should be taken as definitive truth, especially if you are basing your truth on that which you find on the internet. There is bias and interpretation everywhere, including the bible (which has many translations and revisions).

I don't really use the internet for my information, I use the OT, NT, Torah, Kabbalah, Qur'an, Talmud, Astrology (not hororscopes), Tibetan and Egyptian Book Of The Dead, Book of Maccabees, Book of Judas, Book of Malachi, Christology, Metaphysics, Philosophy, History of The Mesopotamian, The Book Of Chakra, etc...

These are all recommended for important true knowledge... there's many more other books out there of course.

I just read the whole Qu'ran and Bible argument and honestly (from an Agnostic point of view) the Qu'ran is CRAP. I do not want to delibrately offend anyone but facts speak for themselves.

I highly cannot tolerate Muslims. I don't give a shit about discrimination/Relgionism shit, Islam is a religion that should be banned.

DON'T even try looking up sources that could convert me or whatever, I hate Islam and dislike EVERYTHING that is associated to it.

Call me ignorant, call me stupid, call me whatever. I don't care. I just decided to give my opinion because Tamacraker's posts DISGUST me. If you must know, I don't care about other Religions but Islam bugs the shit out of me. I am sorry but I was brought up to think like this and I will not change. Yes, I might be ignorant but SO WHAT? I don't give a shit. Mohammed this, Mohammed that, all = crap.

I'll stop because I'm getting really angry. Yes, I was brought up in a very racist / discriminating home.

Anyways, to answer Nikki's question, I also think it's stupid but then again, sometimes, it's logical.

The Muslim religion will prevail, love it or hate it
Infidels can never understand the truth of reality. And you're admitting to all of us about your racism is enough for me to only laugh and think of you as a disgrace to the human race.

By the way, can you prove that the Qur'an is truely CRAP? As you say? Or is your racism and hateful heart and mind only stays blind to the facts and only spew out ignorant hatred?