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wal-mart, should it have this much power?
timeflies51
post Sep 1 2006, 09:26 PM
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Here is Wal-Mart's latest stunt:

Apple recently announced that they are going to have movies available for downloading at a price of $14.99 for new releases and $9.99 for regular flicks. Wal-Mart sells 40% of all of the DVDs that are sold anywhere at a price of $17. Obviously, this is going to have a large impact on their profits. Wal-Mart is also planning to have their own download site to compete with Apple.

Wal-Mart is threatening Hollywood companies and telling them to cut their prices for DVDs lower so they can compete with Apple, (edit) or telling them not to have their movies available for download at all. They've gotten nasty about it, too; they didn't want to sell "High School Musical" because Disney let it be available for download on iTunes.

(EDIT) If certain companies in Hollywood do not comply with Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart will not sell that companies' DVDs.


Do you think Wal-Mart has the right to do this? Not only that, what do you think of Wal-Mart in general? Discuss.
 
 
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post Sep 3 2006, 12:16 AM
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Walmart is available in 15 other countries outside the U.S. iTunes, on the other hand, is available in 20 countries not including America... plus, for some of us, isn't it easier to get on a computer and download something rather than going to a Walmart? (which could potentially be pretty far away depending on where you live)
 
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post Sep 3 2006, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(&/degradanca. @ Sep 3 2006, 12:16 AM) *
Walmart is available in 15 other countries outside the U.S. iTunes, on the other hand, is available in 20 countries not including America... plus, for some of us, isn't it easier to get on a computer and download something rather than going to a Walmart? (which could potentially be pretty far away depending on where you live)


You know, Wal-Mart wasn't always available in those 15 countries, but the stores became available didn't they? What makes you think they'll stop growing at 15 countries? Hey, I'm no economist nor do I make very good forecasts, but something tells me Wal-Mart won't go into sudden decline or stop expanding anytime soon. Well, "something" didn't tell me--that was sarcasm, historical data can be used to predict future growth trends, obviously.

I think you missed the part where the topic starter wrote "Wal-Mart is also planning to have their own download site to compete with Apple." Why drive Wal-Mart when you can go to virtual Wal-Mart? Distance wouldn't be a problem.

You said no one should compete with itunes as a source of legal downloads, yet competition is one of the biggest reasons for low prices. So compete away, I'd say. If itunes can do better to compete, I'm for that, too.
 
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post Sep 3 2006, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 3 2006, 3:58 PM) *
You know, Wal-Mart wasn't always available in those 15 countries, but the stores became available didn't they? What makes you think they'll stop growing at 15 countries? Hey, I'm no economist nor do I make very good forecasts, but something tells me Wal-Mart won't go into sudden decline or stop expanding anytime soon. Well, "something" didn't tell me--that was sarcasm, historical data can be used to predict future growth trends, obviously.

I think you missed the part where the topic starter wrote "Wal-Mart is also planning to have their own download site to compete with Apple." Why drive Wal-Mart when you can go to virtual Wal-Mart? Distance wouldn't be a problem.

You said no one should compete with itunes as a source of legal downloads, yet competition is one of the biggest reasons for low prices. So compete away, I'd say. If itunes can do better to compete, I'm for that, too.


I agree in the sense that Walmart has the right to compete with iTunes. As the consumers, we have everything to gain when there is competition. However, isn't it illegal for Walmart to use it's command of DVD retail as leverage in the online movie market?
 
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post Sep 3 2006, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 3 2006, 4:47 PM) *
I agree in the sense that Walmart has the right to compete with iTunes. As the consumers, we have everything to gain when there is competition. However, isn't it illegal for Walmart to use it's command of DVD retail as leverage in the online movie market?


Wal-Mart has been doing just that to all their suppliers though. If it's illegal, somebody would have already busted them long ago.

This is how Wal-Mart works. The company says "I will pay $5 for one case of widget, no more. Make it happen". If the supplier can't sell the widget at that price, then Wal-Mart simply jumps to someone who can and ditch the old supplier. Suppliers must compete for their business. It's hostile, but that's how they became a low-price leader. Though Wal-Mart has many legal problems, using their power as one of the world's largest retailer as leverage in negotiation isn't one of them.

Anyway, Costco is my store. *plug*
 
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 4 2006, 12:03 AM) *
Wal-Mart has been doing just that to all their suppliers though. If it's illegal, somebody would have already busted them long ago.

This is how Wal-Mart works. The company says "I will pay $5 for one case of widget, no more. Make it happen". If the supplier can't sell the widget at that price, then Wal-Mart simply jumps to someone who can and ditch the old supplier. Suppliers must compete for their business. It's hostile, but that's how they became a low-price leader. Though I'm sure Wal-Mart has many legal problems, using their power as one of the world's largest retailer as leverage in negotiation isn't one of them.

Anyway, Costco is my store.


Nononono, that's different. What you're describing is not illegal as far as I know. Walmart can refuse to stock whatever they want in order to leverage prices in the same product category. What they can't do is use a monopoly to leverage DVD sales with an online service.

Microsoft's been busted on this, I don't see why Walmart can't be.

No Walmart's arond here, so it's Shoprite for me.
 
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post Sep 3 2006, 11:41 PM
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I'm just a tad confused then. What monopoly?

I've never heard of Shoprite, but if it's anything like Costco... thumbsup.gif
 

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timeflies51   wal-mart   Sep 1 2006, 09:26 PM
minixchopstix   Wow. I didn't think Wal-Mart was THAT competit...   Sep 1 2006, 09:48 PM
soEXCLUSIVE   I'm wondering what Wal-Mart's gonna do whe...   Sep 2 2006, 12:59 AM
&/degradanca.   i think wal-mart is being idiotic. nobody can or ...   Sep 2 2006, 05:01 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(&/degradanca. @ Sep 2 2006, 5:0...   Sep 2 2006, 09:31 AM
&/degradanca.   Walmart is available in 15 other countries outside...   Sep 3 2006, 12:16 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(&/degradanca. @ Sep 3 2006, 12...   Sep 3 2006, 02:58 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 3 2006, 3:58 PM...   Sep 3 2006, 04:47 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 3 2006, 4:47 PM) I ...   Sep 3 2006, 11:03 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 4 2006, 12:03 A...   Sep 3 2006, 11:16 PM
Spirited Away   I'm just a tad confused then. What monopoly? ...   Sep 3 2006, 11:41 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 4 2006, 12:41 A...   Sep 4 2006, 09:58 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 4 2006, 9:58 AM) I ...   Sep 4 2006, 02:37 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 4 2006, 3:37 PM...   Sep 4 2006, 03:01 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 4 2006, 3:01 PM) Actua...   Sep 4 2006, 07:01 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 4 2006, 8:01 PM...   Sep 5 2006, 01:22 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 5 2006, 1:22 AM) There...   Sep 5 2006, 11:47 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 5 2006, 12:47 P...   Sep 5 2006, 03:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   Yes. Let wal-mart do whatever they want. You cant ...   Sep 3 2006, 05:12 AM
bobby james   No. Before they wanna compete they need to fix the...   Sep 4 2006, 01:04 AM
BonneVache   Walmart has the right to not sell anything it want...   Sep 4 2006, 11:29 AM
xxscottypottyxx   i hate WALL MART they always advertise saying they...   Sep 4 2006, 02:50 PM
Spirited Away   ^ *cough* COSTCO *cough* Or maybe Target.   Sep 4 2006, 02:52 PM
yrrnotelekktric   eh no. i hate wal-mart. its not even cheap and al...   Sep 4 2006, 09:12 PM
mipadi   The Microsoft-Apple analogy isn't very sound. ...   Sep 5 2006, 08:38 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEMicrosoft isn't doing anything illegal by...   Sep 5 2006, 08:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 5 2006, 9:38 PM) The M...   Sep 5 2006, 09:47 PM
Spirited Away   Software, ain't it?   Sep 5 2006, 09:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 5 2006, 10:48 P...   Sep 5 2006, 10:23 PM
mipadi   Sorry, sometimes my brain gets ahead of my typing....   Sep 6 2006, 12:06 AM


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