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post Aug 23 2005, 08:27 AM
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http://www.blackfilm.com/20050819/features...sonaplane.shtml

This is a movie, starring Samuel L. Jackson. He is a pilot of an airplane, with snakes on it.

Doesn't sound very exciting.



But it made me laugh.
 
 
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post Aug 10 2006, 05:59 PM
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eh... well acid bath slayer, some research is in order for you. Snakes on a Plane was chosen as the title BY fans who were following the movie. the idea is to not give it some "hidden" or "mystical" name, but just state what the movie is about in the title. its a movie, about snakes, on a plane. nough said. they could have called it "venom" or some hollywood name, but the fans voted that they didnt want that. also, fans contributed towards the making of the film directly. they offered plot ideas, helped shaped the film, and i think there was a submission competition for the title song.

lack of innovation? hardly. its a experimental concept that is new for hollywood. may end up bad, but at least its something better than formula made movies such as POTC2 and others.
 
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QUOTE(lanbexx @ Aug 10 2006, 5:59 PM) *
eh... well acid bath slayer, some research is in order for you. Snakes on a Plane was chosen as the title BY fans who were following the movie. the idea is to not give it some "hidden" or "mystical" name, but just state what the movie is about in the title. its a movie, about snakes, on a plane. nough said. they could have called it "venom" or some hollywood name, but the fans voted that they didnt want that. also, fans contributed towards the making of the film directly. they offered plot ideas, helped shaped the film, and i think there was a submission competition for the title song.

lack of innovation? hardly. its a experimental concept that is new for hollywood. may end up bad, but at least its something better than formula made movies such as POTC2 and others.


Uhhhm. Let's get some things straight. First of all, the title of the screenplay and original idea of the production name, was, to begin with, Snakes on a Plane. It was not choosen by the fans as such. But, because of the impression a title like this gives off, the studio wanted to change it. Which they did. However, Mr. Jackson came on board specifically because of the title. He was an immediate fan. He also showed that the buzz and hype generated by this title was far reaching. Note the already imense following. Because of this, the studio did a few things.

The studio and investors involved did some reshoots, despite the fact that principle shooting had already taken place. These were done in order to raise the film to the expectations of its already cult following. The film moved from a PG-13 rating (a rating desired to raise box office numbers) to an R rating, so as to calm the nerves of the people already dumb enough to want to see the film. For all its hype, a PG-13 rating would actually hurt the production at the box office, rather than help it. Its fan-base wants it to be R, and expect it to be R. Thus, the studio conforms in order to make money.

The reshoots include more swearing, a healthy amount of nudity, and more than enough gore. Without these, the film fails to have a fan base. It's a commercial choice, nothing else. Ontop of the reshoots, the still commercial choice to revert the name back to Snakes on a Plane, as opposed to the PG-13 geared Pacific Air Flight 121. It's about a market and a demographic, and they have done a fine job in finding these.

Now, there really isn't anything fundementally different about the production of Snakes on a Plane in comparison to most hollywood "formula" made movies. In fact, Snakes on a Plane may be more formulaic than many. The real difference is in the promotional sense. The actual creation of the film is no different, however their promoters have been innovative. Although innovative, it certaintly is still trash.

They used fan based competitions to spread the word. Not only do they not have to pay for a score, or spend much time on one, but they create even more buzz for the film. The more rediculous the better. And, observing the history of the film, it was very much a serious flick at one point, and may still be to a degree.

It would be as if you were to deliver a joke seriously (believing the joke to be humorous), but were met with the assumption that the joke was never intended to be funny. Instead, people belive that, that you would tell it in the first place is hilarious, for it is so far from clever, and so clearly bad. Instead of facing embarrassment, you put on a facade. Yes, clearly you knew that the joke was poor in the first place.

A demographic always plays a large role in a commercial film, this isn't exactly new. When a film is being made commercially, people are interested in making money. When they want to make money, they always consider the fan base. Always. It isn't exactly a new concept.

However, Snakes on a Plane has made it a step further. They have pretended to now be in on the joke. A joke that was never good in the first place. And, they now realize the commercial possibilities of a wide theatrical release. It's a commerical ploy.

I remember a few years ago, Sprite or 7-up (I can not, for the best of me, remember which) put on an add with a famous basketball player. The add was a joke on advertisements itself. It flashed prices and cheesy slogans all over the screen in a shameless manner. The spokesperson intended to be overly excited about the product. It was a hit with audiences. They thought it was hilarious. But, the sorry truth of the matter was that the addvertisement was still just that, an addvertisement. In a psychological twist, it was trying even more desperately to appeal to consumers. I'm telling you this because it reminds me so much of the promotional campaign for Snakes on a Plane.

It's just another hollywood film, but with a piss poor plot. A god awful, disgusting disgrace for a plot. And, I could imagine that a thousand better concepts were passed up by that same New Line Cinema executive who decided to streamline Snakes on a Plane. And, that's what makes me sick. The idea that this, of all things, was chosen to be made. Of course it's a commercial enterprise. What can I expect? But, seriously, Snakes on a Plane?!

Sure, I could be wrong, which is a possibility. Maybe it is an honest commerical enterprise, if that even makes sense. Maybe it was never ever meant or shot to be serious, although it does indeed appear to have once been. Maybe this is something great for hollywood and audiences alike. But... I just don't see it.
 

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kryogenix   ... Snakes on a Plane   Aug 23 2005, 08:27 AM
racoons > you   worst film ever made alert!!!   Aug 23 2005, 09:33 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Aug 23 2005, 9:33 AM...   Aug 23 2005, 11:07 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 23 2005, 11:07 AM) ...   Apr 3 2006, 03:31 PM
c0cONuTTeR   That's kind of weird what is the movie about i...   Aug 23 2005, 09:52 AM
XAfter_ShockX   its very "unique." i guess thats the onl...   Aug 23 2005, 11:26 AM
cocoalightning27   Snakes???? now we KNOW the Movie INdustry is desp...   Aug 23 2005, 11:31 AM
yellowgurl   QUOTE(cocoalightning27 @ Aug 23 2005, 9:31 AM...   Aug 23 2005, 01:38 PM
danielle_x3   snakes on a plane. funny title. anyway yeah. thi...   Aug 23 2005, 01:51 PM
Rachel is love   Wow....this is what entertainment has come to?   Aug 23 2005, 02:02 PM
INSANITY IS LAUGHING   QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Aug 23 2005, 2:02 ...   Apr 3 2006, 04:53 PM
jnukes   10 minute movie . "OMG I ACCIDENTALLY OPENED...   Aug 23 2005, 02:22 PM
b0st0ngrl   QUOTE(jnukes @ Aug 23 2005, 2:22 PM)10 minute...   Aug 23 2005, 08:55 PM
BrokenDream   they think they could have made the title a bit mo...   Aug 23 2005, 02:28 PM
bab3egurl8o5   HAHAHA, doesn't catch my attention. Seems lame...   Aug 23 2005, 08:52 PM
theoriginal   ^^ What she said. Sounds pretty stupid to me. Wh...   Aug 24 2005, 12:01 AM
anqie   it does sound stupid. and ewww, i hate snakes ...   Aug 24 2005, 12:27 AM
Funkadelic.Kiss   what a retarted plot. pigs in mud is better haha ...   Aug 24 2005, 12:31 AM
kryogenix   OMG, they're changing the title of this movie ...   Aug 24 2005, 07:31 AM
Azarel   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 24 2005, 5:31 AM)OMG, t...   Aug 24 2005, 06:25 PM
FreeStickers   SNAKES ON A PLANE!!!!!!...   Apr 3 2006, 03:08 PM
Madame C   *sigh* I love Sam Jackson, really, but he makes so...   Apr 3 2006, 03:12 PM
chococat15   this sounds retarded   Apr 3 2006, 05:04 PM
Tribal J_Rome   Read about this movie. Supposed to be about an ass...   Apr 3 2006, 06:39 PM
Flavored Condom   The trailer really made me laugh. It's gonna b...   Apr 3 2006, 06:48 PM
DaTru KataLYST   Best Week Ever proclaimed this movie the movie of ...   Apr 3 2006, 07:16 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   Yeah, this is awful. I had the disservice of seein...   Apr 4 2006, 08:34 PM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 9:34...   Apr 6 2006, 07:27 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 8:34...   Apr 8 2006, 08:06 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Paradox of Life @ Apr 8 2006, 8:06 ...   Apr 8 2006, 08:09 AM
JumpforJoy   I heard about this through ONTD and it's gotte...   Apr 6 2006, 04:07 PM
JumpforJoy   I think most people will watch only because it...   Apr 6 2006, 10:12 PM
ecargnmyst   *sigh* tats horrible   Apr 6 2006, 11:43 PM
No Fear   I guess people have ran out of ideas for movies...   Apr 7 2006, 02:12 PM
My Cinderella.   The snakes aren't even that big. Well this mo...   Apr 7 2006, 03:17 PM
JumpforJoy   There's 400 snakes. Supposedly.   Apr 7 2006, 05:42 PM
DaTru KataLYST   Not watching this movie would be a disservice to i...   Apr 8 2006, 01:08 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Apr 8 2006, 1:08 A...   Apr 8 2006, 08:02 AM
SleepyWoodson   From what I've read, they've gone back and...   Apr 8 2006, 02:19 PM
JumpforJoy   They did reshoots to take it from PG-13 to R... ad...   Apr 8 2006, 03:16 PM
push kicks   who can't wait to see this movie? oscar worth...   Jun 12 2006, 10:28 PM
anqie   My, it looks absurd, but buried deep inside me is ...   Jun 12 2006, 10:42 PM
Statues/Shadows   I read an article about it in Time, and really it ...   Jun 12 2006, 10:46 PM
sadolakced acid   i was watching the preview in the movie theater. ...   Jun 12 2006, 10:48 PM
push kicks   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 8:48...   Jun 12 2006, 10:48 PM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 10:4...   Jun 13 2006, 11:22 AM
Madame C   I saw the preview for this when I went to see the ...   Jun 12 2006, 10:48 PM
sadolakced acid   this is so going to be a sleeper hit. i'm see...   Jun 12 2006, 10:51 PM
ritsvek   i guess its realistic-ish ahahah it's definite...   Jun 13 2006, 12:21 AM
L!ckitySplit   well it doesnt seem like this movie takes itself t...   Jun 13 2006, 12:46 AM
sadolakced acid   no there's not. don't kid yourself. the ...   Jun 13 2006, 12:55 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   Yeah, boycott here. Somehow, I feel alone in th...   Jun 13 2006, 05:04 AM
sw33t_rouge   ..wow the cover thingy looks like someone did it o...   Jun 13 2006, 06:46 AM
Ajmalhuuss   haha that movie looks helarious.   Jun 13 2006, 08:49 AM
FreeStickers   http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...hl=Sn...   Jun 13 2006, 10:03 AM
Rachel is love   QUOTE(FreeStickers @ Jun 13 2006, 8:03 AM...   Jun 13 2006, 11:00 AM
marzipan   ........it sounds so ridiculous and stupid, but fu...   Jun 13 2006, 10:22 AM
disco infiltrator   A bunch of my friends and I are going opening nigh...   Jun 13 2006, 10:29 AM
Zatanna   Um... I'm not paying money to see it. I migh...   Jun 13 2006, 11:03 AM
Kristinaa   ^ Seriously. Looks..stupid. Wait for Hollywood V...   Jun 13 2006, 11:06 AM
L!ckitySplit   lol when i saw this movie in theatures, there was ...   Jun 13 2006, 03:39 PM
KissMe2408   Woot, merged snakes on a plane topic. my life is n...   Jun 13 2006, 07:25 PM
Teesa   Bringing this topic back since the movie comes out...   Aug 9 2006, 12:32 AM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   This looks like one of the most retarded movies ev...   Aug 9 2006, 12:36 AM
yrrnotelekktric   QUOTEb' date='Aug 8 2006, 9:36 PM' pos...   Aug 9 2006, 01:08 AM
tic tac.   I saw the preview of it today in theatres. I got s...   Aug 9 2006, 12:36 AM
n00b   omg this movie looks SO lame but i do like the son...   Aug 9 2006, 02:01 AM
hixfive   lmao thats just retarded no offense   Aug 9 2006, 10:36 AM
Clarisse   I heard in making this movie that they wanted to m...   Aug 9 2006, 12:02 PM
Kathleen   Eep. I feel so behind. I JUST saw the trailer toda...   Aug 9 2006, 01:00 PM
I Shot JFK   But, if we dont see bad movies, what will we all l...   Aug 9 2006, 01:03 PM
The E-Man   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Aug 9 2006, 2:03 PM) B...   Aug 9 2006, 01:06 PM
Shortiiex   the movie is most talked/made fun of...but i don...   Aug 9 2006, 07:44 PM
walk the line   a while back i was sitting at the movies watching ...   Aug 9 2006, 07:56 PM
lanbexx   eh... well acid bath slayer, some research is in o...   Aug 10 2006, 05:59 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(lanbexx @ Aug 10 2006, 5:59 PM) eh....   Aug 10 2006, 07:27 PM
Kathleen   ^ Oh really? That must explain why critics aren...   Aug 10 2006, 06:33 PM
yummy_delight   ^ POTC2 was awesome and hardly formulaic. This m...   Aug 10 2006, 06:35 PM
ryfitaDF   quite possibly the next "plan 9 from outer sp...   Aug 10 2006, 07:08 PM
Zatanna   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Aug 10 2006, 8:08 PM) qu...   Aug 10 2006, 07:29 PM
Frizzank   [moved] After browsing through the vast land of m...   Aug 12 2006, 01:07 PM
M!ssMurd3r   all of my friends want to see that but it doesnt l...   Aug 12 2006, 07:06 PM
Elizabeth_   It comes out in New Zealand on the 28th I can...   Aug 18 2006, 05:38 PM
The E-Man   I don't want to waste $7 to watch that mo...   Aug 18 2006, 05:46 PM
minixchopstix   QUOTE(The E-Man @ Aug 18 2006, 3:46 ...   Aug 18 2006, 06:10 PM
ohxnoxitsxmegalinn   "they" must be running out of things to ...   Aug 18 2006, 08:02 PM
Shahin   f**k it, I'm seeing it.   Aug 18 2006, 08:06 PM
berry_lickable   my friend just got done watching this, she told me...   Aug 18 2006, 11:51 PM
RiC3xBoy   Seems like a good comedy to me.   Aug 19 2006, 12:42 AM
medicalxinjektion   doesn't look funny..I will wait till it comes ...   Aug 19 2006, 12:44 AM
The E-Man   QUOTE(medicalxinjektion @ Aug 19 2006, 1...   Aug 19 2006, 01:36 PM
This Confession   It surprises me how they get the money to make the...   Aug 19 2006, 12:52 AM
sadolakced acid   anyone who cannot appreciate this film is entirely...   Aug 19 2006, 12:58 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 19 2006, 12:5...   Aug 19 2006, 04:07 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Aug 19 2006, 4:0...   Aug 19 2006, 09:30 PM
LiLEthiopian   This movie looked like a piece of trash in commerc...   Aug 19 2006, 12:18 PM
incoherent   i think they could have at least come up with a be...   Aug 19 2006, 01:04 PM
Madame C   I just got back from seeing it. I mean, it wasn...   Aug 19 2006, 09:25 PM
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