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Assassinating a dictator, Can it be justified? |
Nov 23 2005, 09:54 PM
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Can the assassination of a dictator be justified?
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Jul 28 2006, 12:08 AM
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1) Imposing certain standards (Christian or non) can not clearly be seen as tyrannical..... there was no persecution...... there was no singleing out of anyone...... there was no slaughter of innocents because they don't have the same agenda
2) Bob could be impeached just like JFK...... neither is he in complete and total control over everything 3) The death of Bob would not result in the removal of christian influence throughout the country....... and if it did it would not clearly result from of the death of Bob 4) There may be a suitable replacement, but since Bob wasn't really doing anything tyrranical the entire reason he would need a suitable replacement is completely lost. 5) Pastafarianism is a religion, not a nation (since you decided to add in your amazing sadistic attempt at a joke) None of the points are tied to morality...... I stated that at the beginning..... it was kinda part of the point...... No subjectivity has nothing to do with it. There is a clear definition for a "tyrant". You have to look into seeing whether there was any other way to get that person out of office..... violence would only be a last ditch effort. When you speak of a clear change for the better, it generally is subjective, but not in this case. It means that the tyrannical things being done will be stopped...... Look at the French Revolution for example...... The assasination of Marat would not clearly result in a change for the better because it was obvious that either Danton or Robspierre would take over aand nothing would change...... And a suitable replacement means someone that will stop the tyrrany entirely and not set an agenda for revenge...... Can we keep the maturity level above 3rd grade please? "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me........ Nahnahnahnahnahhhhhhh....." Wow, do we really need to resort to mud slinging and name calling...... I'm an idiot. Yipee-kai-yai-yay and a woohoo for you. So you went to kindergarten...... just like everybody else....... are you still waiting on the federal grant for the investigation into proving the existence of cooties too? Do you really have no constructive counter argument other than trying to apply different cases to try and make me look like a crackpot and my argument seems outrageous?....... No JFK's assasination would not have been justified..... it only take one of the 4 points make it wrong...... OK, I'll conceed for arguments sake that JFK was a tyrannical terrorist supporter bent on the overthrow of a legitimate government, and killing innocent men women and children in the pursuit of personal and financial gain....... JFK could have been impeached...... other ways of being removed from office = check........ I'm sure whatever he was doing, he was doing it with the support of other high ranking government officials........ there was no way he could support and run terroist training camps without support or assistance of some kind..... seeing as this is a democratic republic and there are failsafes to prevent such things from happening...... therefore, if he wasn't working alone there would be other people still running it, and his death would not clearly result in a change for the better....... No suitable replacement could be made, because if this group was doing this under the radar of the rest of the US government then they could just as easily exclude the new president from their little dealings.......... Thats 3 out of the 4? and it only takes 1? You do the math....... But in any case it adds up to wrong....... |
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simx Assassinating a dictator Nov 23 2005, 09:54 PM
tweeak Yes, it certainly can be justified, depending on h... Nov 23 2005, 11:23 PM
ermfermoo I hate how people always think of dictators as evi... Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM
mipadi QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM)Sadda... Nov 24 2005, 02:07 AM
vash1530 QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 24 2005, 2:07 AM)The dicta... Nov 27 2005, 11:39 PM
sovietski If he is your dictator or shall we say your ruler ... Nov 24 2005, 12:22 AM
vash1530 if someone decided that assassinating a dictator i... Nov 24 2005, 12:26 AM
RiC3xBoy It depends, a dictator is just someone who has abs... Nov 24 2005, 12:33 AM
sheridan_whiteside I doubt that an assassination would be very effect... Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM
SkaironFrenzy only when they take the lives of countless people.... Dec 11 2005, 01:16 AM
Ajmalhuuss Murdur can never be justified. If we decide to mu... Jun 27 2006, 02:17 PM
ECD & C0 QUOTEMurdur can never be justified
in some ways i... Jun 29 2006, 09:19 PM
Sumiaki QUOTEMurdur can never be justified
I disagree. Ca... Jun 29 2006, 10:48 PM
dtang4 It can be easily justified, especially if one life... Jun 30 2006, 09:21 PM
Paradox of Life ^ But it's against the law. Murder is against ... Jul 2 2006, 09:30 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura It's very justified depends on the dictator... Jul 2 2006, 06:56 PM
sakaitone QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 2 2006, 7... Jul 3 2006, 12:35 AM
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sakaitone QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 3 2006, 4... Jul 3 2006, 01:34 PM
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if so, th... Jul 3 2006, 02:17 AM
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Statues/Shadows Was Hitler hot? Jul 3 2006, 07:26 PM
sadolakced acid hitler wasn't hot.
but it's beside the ... Jul 3 2006, 09:39 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura actually, he was a women.
one of his balls were n... Jul 4 2006, 01:52 AM
sadolakced acid that doesn't make him a woman.
and he wasn... Jul 4 2006, 01:53 AM
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sadolakced acid err...
my requirements for not killing a dictator... Jul 6 2006, 10:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura too bad. there's no sense of fairness and demo... Jul 7 2006, 07:06 PM
ghetosmurph The assasination of a dictator is moral if all of ... Jul 15 2006, 10:55 AM
sadolakced acid no assasination attempt is ever moral, no matter h... Jul 15 2006, 10:26 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 8:26... Jul 16 2006, 04:41 AM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 11:2... Jul 16 2006, 12:19 PM
forza I have to agree with him ^ on this one. Blindsidin... Jul 16 2006, 04:29 AM
sadolakced acid how do you know you're right, and he's wro... Jul 16 2006, 11:02 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2006, 12:0... Jul 17 2006, 02:21 PM
sadolakced acid war is just when you're the morally right part... Jul 17 2006, 07:05 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2006, 8:05... Jul 18 2006, 12:30 PM
sadolakced acid tell me one war in which the winning side was wron... Jul 18 2006, 04:20 PM
ghetosmurph I gave you an example.... Sulieman and the muslims... Jul 20 2006, 11:21 AM
sadolakced acid i don't call that a victory. Jul 20 2006, 12:01 PM
ghetosmurph Whatever, you asked for an example where the winni... Jul 20 2006, 06:08 PM
sadolakced acid morally wrong becuase you are on the "losing ... Jul 20 2006, 09:03 PM
ghetosmurph no, morally wrong because their own religion consi... Jul 21 2006, 10:35 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 8:26... Jul 22 2006, 03:24 PM
sadolakced acid killing and assasinating are rather different, in ... Jul 23 2006, 08:27 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 23 2006, 9:27... Jul 24 2006, 07:06 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 23 2006, 6:27... Jul 25 2006, 02:17 AM
sadolakced acid nothing can ever be morally justified because mora... Jul 25 2006, 01:05 AM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 25 2006, 2:05... Jul 25 2006, 03:50 PM
sadolakced acid 1) bob is clearly tyrranical, imposing christian ... Jul 26 2006, 01:31 AM
sadolakced acid [quote name='ghetosmurph' date='Jul 28... Jul 28 2006, 02:21 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 28 2006, 3:21... Jul 28 2006, 05:33 PM
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nice. in depth.
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ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 28 2006, 7:26... Jul 31 2006, 03:34 PM
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vash1530 easily. the guys a dick so i shoot him. i decided ... Jul 28 2006, 10:17 PM
ichigofan assasinating a dictator, hmm hard one. It depends ... Aug 3 2006, 02:23 PM
ghetosmurph But I didn't disagree with you...... I agreed ... Aug 4 2006, 09:48 AM
sadolakced acid that's what i'm trying to say. nothing ev... Aug 5 2006, 01:07 AM![]() ![]() |