ABORTION VERSION TWO |
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ABORTION VERSION TWO |
Jul 15 2006, 10:44 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
yea, someone head to the other one and close it.
i'm going to lay down a few ground rules here. 1- i don't care what your stance is, and no one else does either 2- use logic and facts to try to convince us to believe something. it's called a debate not a disorganized rumble. 3- be civil. a lot of you seem to have problems with this. 4- no links, unless neccisary. no quoting outside sources over a paragraph. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. if i don't care what you think about it, why would i care what someone else thinks? and really. stop using other people's arguements. alright. and you know, keeping your posts short isn't a bad thing either. so, the set up: should abortion be made illegal in the united states |
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*ECD & C0* |
Jul 24 2006, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE n animal is alive and helpless, however they have no right to life. So, the qualities of being alive and helpless do not exactly equate a right to life, or any rights for that matter. I would argue that a fetus is so impersonal, worthless, and so little sentient that it is not much unlike a common animal. In fact, in many cases, the common animal is far more human-like than a fetus. Just as I have no ill feelings in knowing that animals are killed for the convienence and comfort of specific types of food, I have no ill feelings in knowing that unborn children are being aborted at the will of their mother. Until that child is born, our society has no real way to recognize it as having personhood and rights with it. Once the child is born, the mother takes a legal obligation towards its well-being, this is meaningful and useful. However, forcing a mother to treat an unborn child as if it were a full-fledged person, just like you or I, is inherently rediculous as the unborn child is so little lile you or I. wtf a fetus is not worthless, and animals do have a right to life a fetus is a non developed person |
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Jul 24 2006, 05:45 PM
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daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
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Jul 25 2006, 08:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 99 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,520 |
Alright I know I said I was done, but hey apparently I am not so stronged willed. First of all ^^^ AMEN! There are tons of other children, LIVING FULLY DEVELOPED humans that need our care.
and also, How do they have a right to live? Animals don't have rights. WTFTWTFTWTFTWTF. Who are you to decide which life on this earth has the RIGHT to be here? Of course they have a right, or else well they wouldn't be alive in the first place. It is all the same with abortion. People think that they are oh so powerful and get to go around deciding who gets to live and die. But just as in an animals case, that is the animals own right, as it is the mothers. |
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Jul 26 2006, 09:26 AM
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daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
WTFTWTFTWTFTWTF. Who are you to decide which life on this earth has the RIGHT to be here? Of course they have a right, or else well they wouldn't be alive in the first place. It is all the same with abortion. People think that they are oh so powerful and get to go around deciding who gets to live and die. But just as in an animals case, that is the animals own right, as it is the mothers. Are you kidding me? You honestly think animals have "rights"? Let me tell you what rights are: QUOTE Rights are scientific, moral principles that guarantee freedom of action in a social context. The source of an individual's right to life is one's nature as a rational being. Rights are requirements necessary for an individual to live as a rational being (human) in a society of men. Only human beings have rights. Do you think ants have rights? Butterflies? Bees? Fish? Animals don't have rights. Trees are "life", but they do not have rights. And humans are "oh so powerful". We do decide who gets to live and die - you eat meat, don't you? (well, unless you're a vegetarian) |
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Jul 27 2006, 10:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 99 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,520 |
Are you kidding me? You honestly think animals have "rights"? Let me tell you what rights are: Only human beings have rights. Do you think ants have rights? Butterflies? Bees? Fish? Animals don't have rights. Trees are "life", but they do not have rights. And humans are "oh so powerful". We do decide who gets to live and die - you eat meat, don't you? (well, unless you're a vegetarian) I believe that everything born into life has that right. The only reason I think abortion is alright is because I do not think it is alive. I hate how people think we are so great, and I am sorry if that in any way offends you but I myself respect all forms of life. And no..I do not eat meat. |
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