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1984, anyone?
*Statues/Shadows*
post Jul 12 2006, 07:23 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/idcards/story/0,,1817559,00.html

Read that. Discuss. If it gets too deep (rolleyes.gif), feel free to move this to debate; I thought it'd be better suited for the lounge as this particular article is very biased towards one side, however, not living in England myself, I have yet to come across anything else on it (but perhaps that's just me being ignorant).
 
 
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*Kathleen*
post Jul 12 2006, 08:33 PM
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aeg;hhg I had all this stuff quoted and typed then I pressed the wrong button on here and lost it. df;hfdg stubborn.gif Okay, well, I'll try to just post my main points.
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You will be required to attend an enrolment centre with some form of identifying material - bank statements, credit cards, driving licence or birth certificate, who knows what. Then you will be fingerprinted, photographed and the iris in your eye will be measured. You will give the authorities 49 pieces of information about yourself. If you don't, you may be fined up to £2,500. Additional fines of up to £2,500 may be levied every time you fail to comply.

Now that is creepy.
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It's a devilishly clever scam because, in essence, the government is charging you so that it can charge companies that wish to confirm your identity.

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I am afraid I do not trust the government's motives - nor do I trust its competence.

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I am preternaturally against the state forcing me to supply biometric measurements and 49 separate pieces of information about myself to a database which will be accessed by God knows who without my permission or knowledge. I am genetically incapable of submitting to such a process. I cannot do it. I will not do it,

Although it came a bit humorous in the manner that he stated it, I believe every word of it reflects how I feel about the subject.
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The Spanish ID card did not stop the Madrid train bombers and a British ID card wouldn't have stopped the London July bombings of 2005. ID cards, it is plain, will not deter home-grown terrorists or suicide bombers

Again, great point. There will always be ways around the ID card for terrorists and suicide bombers if need be. Overall, I'm just scared of this being 'successfully' implemented - our own government might consider it. Blargh. I guess Orwell was merely twenty-ish years too early. ermm.gif

Edit: Is there anyone in Parliament brutally opposed to this?
 

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Statues/Shadows   1984, anyone?   Jul 12 2006, 07:23 PM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Jul 12 2006, 7:23...   Jul 12 2006, 07:28 PM
smallsXalmighty   ^agreed   Jul 12 2006, 07:34 PM
tainted_angel   I didn't finish reading all of it, but got a l...   Jul 12 2006, 07:34 PM
airam   umm can someone summerize that   Jul 12 2006, 07:54 PM
tainted_angel   QUOTE(airam @ Jul 12 2006, 5:54 PM) umm c...   Jul 12 2006, 08:11 PM
airam   sry, i just didn't feel like reading the whole...   Jul 12 2006, 08:19 PM
Kathleen   ^ Can't read? Mmm I'm reading it right now...   Jul 12 2006, 08:04 PM
airam   lol, if i couldn't read why would i ask for a ...   Jul 12 2006, 08:06 PM
Kathleen   Well I just figured maybe you couldn't read th...   Jul 12 2006, 08:08 PM
Statues/Shadows   Because reading a summary is hardly reading. You d...   Jul 12 2006, 08:09 PM
Statues/Shadows   For what it's worth, her post was far more use...   Jul 12 2006, 08:16 PM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Jul 12 2006, 8:16...   Jul 12 2006, 11:45 PM
tainted_angel   Ah, good point.   Jul 12 2006, 08:17 PM
Kathleen   aeg;hhg I had all this stuff quoted and typed then...   Jul 12 2006, 08:33 PM
airam   measure the iris in your eye? why?   Jul 12 2006, 08:42 PM
Kathleen   Why would you ask if you didn't read the artic...   Jul 12 2006, 08:47 PM
airam   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 12 2006, 9:47 PM) Wh...   Jul 12 2006, 09:06 PM
Kristinaa   Apparently the iris is a more reliable blueprint, ...   Jul 12 2006, 08:50 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 12 2006, 9:33 PM) Ed...   Jul 12 2006, 08:51 PM
Kathleen   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Jul 12 2006, 9:51...   Jul 12 2006, 09:38 PM
mona lisa   The government just wants to be seen as doing some...   Jul 12 2006, 09:00 PM
Statues/Shadows   ^There was a sketch on SNL at one point about two ...   Jul 12 2006, 09:05 PM
I Shot JFK   ^ oh goodie. a new imbecile. the ones we had WERE ...   Jul 13 2006, 04:45 AM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 13 2006, 4:45 AM) ...   Jul 13 2006, 09:42 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Mr. Me Too @ Jul 13 2006, 3:42 PM) ...   Jul 13 2006, 10:29 AM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 13 2006, 10:29 AM)...   Jul 13 2006, 10:51 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(Mr. Me Too @ Jul 13 2006, 10:42 AM)...   Jul 13 2006, 12:48 PM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 13 2006, 12:48 PM) N...   Jul 13 2006, 01:20 PM
Zatanna   Mr. Me Too - I'm going to ask nicely if you c...   Jul 13 2006, 01:40 PM
I Shot JFK   in his defense, there were words on the picture. ...   Jul 13 2006, 01:56 PM
Kathleen   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 13 2006, 2:56 PM) ...   Jul 13 2006, 02:55 PM
Mr. Me Too   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 13 2006, 2:55 PM) HA...   Jul 13 2006, 03:02 PM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(Mr. Me Too @ Jul 13 2006, 4:02 PM) ...   Jul 13 2006, 05:50 PM
Zatanna   ^ Jamesssss Fine - how about replies with...   Jul 13 2006, 01:57 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Zatanna @ Jul 13 2006, 7:57 PM) ^ ...   Jul 13 2006, 03:14 PM
I Shot JFK   oh i dunno, nicki. i think the owl is cute...   Jul 14 2006, 10:38 AM
forza   I love that "U mad?" picture. [puts in h...   Jul 14 2006, 01:33 PM
Kathleen   Bump. People need to read this.   Jul 21 2006, 01:09 AM


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