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Environmentalism, right or wrong?
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post May 25 2006, 12:15 PM
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Now, when I say environmentalism, I'm dealing with the rainforest and what not. How do you guys feel about it? What's your stance on this topic?

If there has already been a thread about this, then whatever.
 
 
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post Jun 12 2006, 12:10 AM
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certainly attempts to limit pollution can cause no harm.

right?

but isn't that just an assumption?

sure, mercury is bad and such. these things aren't good, and should be limited and controlled.
but things like carbon dioxide? it's iffy

sure, i understand combustion.

but let's think for a second.

we're burning fossil fuels, right?

that's made from dead animals.

now, years and years of animals have been dying, and the carbon in them is getting stored in a massive carbon sink.

right?

and then we humans come along, and in the past 200 years, open up that carbon sink and start releasing the carbon as carbon dioxide.

now. let's think. this is carbon that was from the atmosphere- that's where it came from. then us pesky animals came and stored it away as fossil fuels.

so obviously, carbon avalible must have been declining, right?

and we are carbon based life forms, are we not?

and plants need carbon dioxide. so what happens when there's more carbon dioxide? more plants can grow, causing more oxygen to be produced.

it's logically sound.

look, the point is, we don't know what's good for the environment

sure we know what's bad for the environment, like CFCs, and heavy metals in the water.

but how do we do what's good for the environment if we dont' even know what it is?
 

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JakeKKing   Environmentalism   May 25 2006, 12:15 PM
mipadi   I like to do what I can to protect the environment...   May 25 2006, 12:19 PM
JakeKKing   Okay, about the trees. When people cut them down t...   May 25 2006, 12:35 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ May 25 2006, 1:35 PM) O...   May 26 2006, 07:21 AM
Smoogrish   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ May 25 2006, 1:35 PM) O...   Jun 11 2006, 07:28 PM
Spirited Away   The consequences of hurting forests and and rainfo...   May 25 2006, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing   Absolutely. The planet is a precious thing. I thin...   May 25 2006, 11:14 PM
Ox_Su`Zie   I think its good to a certain point. Like its not ...   May 29 2006, 06:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   Yes. We should preserved rainforest just like pres...   May 30 2006, 07:23 PM
yummy_delight   Of course, it's right. Since humans are the ...   May 30 2006, 08:59 PM
Paradox of Life   And what argument could someone possibly have to s...   May 31 2006, 04:25 PM
sadolakced acid   michael, have you read "state of fear" b...   Jun 1 2006, 10:50 PM
mipadi   I have not read it. In fact, this is the first I h...   Jun 2 2006, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid   it provides a different view of enviromentalism. ...   Jun 2 2006, 05:09 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 2 2006, 6:09 ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   when the glaciers from the last ice age receeded, ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:03 PM
sadolakced acid   but what exactly are the effects of global warming...   Jun 11 2006, 11:05 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 12:0...   Jun 11 2006, 11:11 PM
sadolakced acid   surface tempuratures. here's the catch. glob...   Jun 11 2006, 11:18 PM
mipadi   I think your explanation is a bit simplistic, and ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:28 PM
sadolakced acid   i really suggest you read "state of fear...   Jun 11 2006, 11:40 PM
mipadi   There's two things I'm not understanding:Y...   Jun 11 2006, 11:45 PM
sadolakced acid   why did they have to be reintroduced? because the...   Jun 11 2006, 11:52 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 12:5...   Jun 11 2006, 11:59 PM
sadolakced acid   certainly attempts to limit pollution can cause no...   Jun 12 2006, 12:10 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 1:10...   Jun 12 2006, 12:52 AM
sadolakced acid   carbon is most prevalently found in carbon dioxide...   Jun 12 2006, 07:00 AM
marzipan   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 7:00...   Jun 13 2006, 09:14 PM
mipadi   You're definitely in the minority if you'r...   Jun 12 2006, 08:34 AM
sadolakced acid   im not saying we dont' need a limit. i'm ...   Jun 12 2006, 12:35 PM
mipadi   I'm not a meteorologist, Justin, and unlike mo...   Jun 12 2006, 12:39 PM
sadolakced acid   it's not a straw man. el nino is part of the ...   Jun 12 2006, 06:02 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 7:02...   Jun 13 2006, 08:00 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   sadolakced acid, i wouldnt blame nature for global...   Jun 13 2006, 02:55 AM
sadolakced acid   and i ask: how do you know that reducing CO2 emmi...   Jun 13 2006, 03:40 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2006, 4:40...   Jun 13 2006, 09:09 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ that's how el nino forms. but what triggers...   Jun 13 2006, 11:24 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 12:2...   Jun 14 2006, 12:16 AM
sadolakced acid   really now? mayhaps you could site a source...   Jun 14 2006, 12:35 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 1:35...   Jun 14 2006, 07:01 AM
sadolakced acid   you're assuming things. CO2 doesn't trap ...   Jun 14 2006, 02:33 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 3:33...   Jun 15 2006, 07:35 AM
sadolakced acid   mayhaps you should do the same. CO2 is not a blan...   Jun 15 2006, 07:33 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2006, 4:40...   Sep 26 2006, 05:22 PM
mipadi   In a nutshell, solar engine from the sun is able t...   Jun 15 2006, 09:04 PM
sadolakced acid   generally right, but your description of it as a b...   Jun 15 2006, 09:17 PM
mipadi   The atmosphere blocks thermal radiation, which has...   Jun 15 2006, 09:20 PM
sadolakced acid   blocks? like, it reflects heat back like the fros...   Jun 15 2006, 09:23 PM
mipadi   I wouldn't use the word "reflect", b...   Jun 15 2006, 09:25 PM
mipadi   Global Temperature Highest in Millennia QUOTEThe ...   Sep 26 2006, 09:15 AM


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