god thread, number 3 Options

[*disco infiltrator*]

So, it seems that everything talked about in another thread leads to religion.

So here we are!
Debate the existence of God and which one's right and stuff.

I would post links to God threads 1 & 2, but you can't search for three-letter words.
(2 got to 50 pages, think we can beat it?!?)

Er, I'll start.
I'm atheist. Prove me wrong.
By prove, I mean state facts that have been backed up by solid evidence. I have yet to see that happen in all 70 combined pages of threads 1 & 2.

[timeflies51]

Funny thing is, the Catholic Church does not require its members to give them money. So I doubt the motivation is money.

Ever hear of indulgences? During the middle ages, the Catholic Church claimed that your soul would not be sent to heaven unless you paid indulgences.

[*kryogenix*]

Ever hear of indulgences? During the middle ages, the Catholic Church claimed that your soul would not be sent to heaven unless you paid indulgences.

Is this what is being taught in school these days? This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened. Even worse than the version we were taught at my school.

Indulgences do affect going to heaven or hell. Indulgences only remove the temporal punishment that is associated with sin.

What does affect where your soul is headed is if you are absolved of your sins or not. Indulgences are worthless unless you are absolved first anyway, regardless of whether you bought them or you earned them. Also, indulgences are not a license to sin.