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Environmentalism, right or wrong?
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post May 25 2006, 12:15 PM
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Now, when I say environmentalism, I'm dealing with the rainforest and what not. How do you guys feel about it? What's your stance on this topic?

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post May 25 2006, 02:50 PM
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The consequences of hurting forests and and rainforests (burning or deforestation) are great, including but not limited to changes in weather, increase of drought, and decrease in carbon dioxide clearing houses. And believe it or not, there are people (tribal) who still live off of the land. Forests that are being cleared for farming have high risk of flood and erosion, and though I don't know much about them, bacteria, fungi, and protists are necessary for growth in rainforests.

And FYI, once a rainforest is gone, it cannot be regenerated; just planting new trees isn't going to cut it. In other words, it would be gone forever.

Though I can't really agree with some of the things environmentalists do to support their cause, I do understand the need to protect the planet as best as we can. There is what Supply Chain Operations folks call a "Bullwhip effect" that I think apply pretty well here. It is simply that demand variations can and will expand exponentially up as it flows up the supply chain, like the effects of a Bullwhip. For our purposes, what we see as cutting down an insignificant number of trees now will become quite a significant number in the future.

If environmentalists do not continue to raise awareness and go the extra mile to do what they can to help, who else would? Actually, coporate responsibility originated with environmental activists dealing with corporations all around the nation. Without those efforts, would these businesses care at all about being green? This is just an example of the good that environmentalists do.
 

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JakeKKing   Environmentalism   May 25 2006, 12:15 PM
mipadi   I like to do what I can to protect the environment...   May 25 2006, 12:19 PM
JakeKKing   Okay, about the trees. When people cut them down t...   May 25 2006, 12:35 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ May 25 2006, 1:35 PM) O...   May 26 2006, 07:21 AM
Smoogrish   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ May 25 2006, 1:35 PM) O...   Jun 11 2006, 07:28 PM
Spirited Away   The consequences of hurting forests and and rainfo...   May 25 2006, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing   Absolutely. The planet is a precious thing. I thin...   May 25 2006, 11:14 PM
Ox_Su`Zie   I think its good to a certain point. Like its not ...   May 29 2006, 06:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   Yes. We should preserved rainforest just like pres...   May 30 2006, 07:23 PM
yummy_delight   Of course, it's right. Since humans are the ...   May 30 2006, 08:59 PM
Paradox of Life   And what argument could someone possibly have to s...   May 31 2006, 04:25 PM
sadolakced acid   michael, have you read "state of fear" b...   Jun 1 2006, 10:50 PM
mipadi   I have not read it. In fact, this is the first I h...   Jun 2 2006, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid   it provides a different view of enviromentalism. ...   Jun 2 2006, 05:09 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 2 2006, 6:09 ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   when the glaciers from the last ice age receeded, ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:03 PM
sadolakced acid   but what exactly are the effects of global warming...   Jun 11 2006, 11:05 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 12:0...   Jun 11 2006, 11:11 PM
sadolakced acid   surface tempuratures. here's the catch. glob...   Jun 11 2006, 11:18 PM
mipadi   I think your explanation is a bit simplistic, and ...   Jun 11 2006, 11:28 PM
sadolakced acid   i really suggest you read "state of fear...   Jun 11 2006, 11:40 PM
mipadi   There's two things I'm not understanding:Y...   Jun 11 2006, 11:45 PM
sadolakced acid   why did they have to be reintroduced? because the...   Jun 11 2006, 11:52 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 12:5...   Jun 11 2006, 11:59 PM
sadolakced acid   certainly attempts to limit pollution can cause no...   Jun 12 2006, 12:10 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 1:10...   Jun 12 2006, 12:52 AM
sadolakced acid   carbon is most prevalently found in carbon dioxide...   Jun 12 2006, 07:00 AM
marzipan   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 7:00...   Jun 13 2006, 09:14 PM
mipadi   You're definitely in the minority if you'r...   Jun 12 2006, 08:34 AM
sadolakced acid   im not saying we dont' need a limit. i'm ...   Jun 12 2006, 12:35 PM
mipadi   I'm not a meteorologist, Justin, and unlike mo...   Jun 12 2006, 12:39 PM
sadolakced acid   it's not a straw man. el nino is part of the ...   Jun 12 2006, 06:02 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2006, 7:02...   Jun 13 2006, 08:00 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   sadolakced acid, i wouldnt blame nature for global...   Jun 13 2006, 02:55 AM
sadolakced acid   and i ask: how do you know that reducing CO2 emmi...   Jun 13 2006, 03:40 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2006, 4:40...   Jun 13 2006, 09:09 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ that's how el nino forms. but what triggers...   Jun 13 2006, 11:24 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 12:2...   Jun 14 2006, 12:16 AM
sadolakced acid   really now? mayhaps you could site a source...   Jun 14 2006, 12:35 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 1:35...   Jun 14 2006, 07:01 AM
sadolakced acid   you're assuming things. CO2 doesn't trap ...   Jun 14 2006, 02:33 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2006, 3:33...   Jun 15 2006, 07:35 AM
sadolakced acid   mayhaps you should do the same. CO2 is not a blan...   Jun 15 2006, 07:33 PM
rawr SOCK   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2006, 4:40...   Sep 26 2006, 05:22 PM
mipadi   In a nutshell, solar engine from the sun is able t...   Jun 15 2006, 09:04 PM
sadolakced acid   generally right, but your description of it as a b...   Jun 15 2006, 09:17 PM
mipadi   The atmosphere blocks thermal radiation, which has...   Jun 15 2006, 09:20 PM
sadolakced acid   blocks? like, it reflects heat back like the fros...   Jun 15 2006, 09:23 PM
mipadi   I wouldn't use the word "reflect", b...   Jun 15 2006, 09:25 PM
mipadi   Global Temperature Highest in Millennia QUOTEThe ...   Sep 26 2006, 09:15 AM


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