cellphones, should bloomberg ban the use of cell phone in school? Options

[anheuser]

free free to post here my answer: of course no!


bloomberg is creating sumting stupid. well he's trying to put metal detectors in midle and highschools. he's doing this so it can prevent use from bringing yur cellphones in school well isnt that a wrong thing to do like for example if there wuz an emergency wut would happen and if wanted to call yur parent what would u call them with so ... i just need a minute of yur time and just type in yes or no and u can and maybe type in sum feed bac about wut u think about it.. thxs for all your time all cb users!

[Comptine]

I got to Stuyvesant with DrNick (except I don't know him) and I think this is a vast waste amount of time and money.

first of all, i agree with everyone that cellphones that are on are a complete distraction. students in my school like to play scratchy music on it and it really distracts you when you want quiet during a free period. however, cellphones aren't the ONLY distraction. Spirited Away made a good point that older generations made it fine through school without cellphones by using office phones. but, when you have to deal with the new york city metro system and the unpredictability of the city, i desperately need a cellphone. on several occasions, i had to abandon the subway completely and walk home. i need to at least let my parents know that.

and in case of an emergency, you cannot have all 3000+ students of my school waiting for the office phones.

also, these metal detectors will be random (at least at my school). the metal detectors they'll using are portable but enormous. what a waste of time and money to just set it up on random days.

i can understand for weapons and drugs. i fully support that. however, it's going to slow things down. and also, things like ipods and cellphones. they might be distractions but they mean no harm.

btw, doesn't nyc have like a huge defecit? where is the money coming from?

[Spirited Away]

[font=Arial][size=1]Spirited Away made a good point that older generations made it fine through school without cellphones by using office phones. but, when you have to deal with the new york city metro system and the unpredictability of the city, i desperately need a cellphone. on several occasions, i had to abandon the subway completely and walk home. i need to at least let my parents know that.

and in case of an emergency, you cannot have all 3000+ students of my school waiting for the office phones.

How often do these emergencies occur? Then again, if you're suggesting that to have cell phones in case of emergencies is "better safe than sorry", I whole-heartedly agree. However, how many kids out of that 3000 would only use their cell phones in case of emergencies? And aren't school officials trained for such emergencies? Don't they have cell phones?

Per your problems with the subway... don't they have public phones? If you'd really need to call home on the occasions that you have to walk home, wouldn't public phones work just fine? I was in Manhattan last summer and I recall seeing phones in the stations.

Sorry to be so staunch about this, but I'm one of those kids who rode the bus all four years of high school, who stayed for the late bus often enough, and who sometimes miss the late bus and had to call home with the office phone. Of course, I do not mean to make light of your situation because everyone knows NYC is that much more complicated than Houston (my town), but I feel that whatever the case, cell phones aren't necessities, they're conveniences that everyone assumes to be necessary.

[think!IMAGINARIL...]

How often do these emergencies occur? Then again, if you're suggesting that to have cell phones in case of emergencies is "better safe than sorry", I whole-heartedly agree. However, how many kids out of that 3000 would only use their cell phones in case of emergencies? And aren't school officials trained for such emergencies? Don't they have cell phones?

Per your problems with the subway... don't they have public phones? If you'd really need to call home on the occasions that you have to walk home, wouldn't public phones work just fine? I was in Manhattan last summer and I recall seeing phones in the stations.

Sorry to be so staunch about this, but I'm one of those kids who rode the bus all four years of high school, who stayed for the late bus often enough, and who sometimes miss the late bus and had to call home with the office phone. Of course, I do not mean to make light of your situation because everyone knows NYC is that much more complicated than Houston (my town), but I feel that whatever the case, cell phones aren't necessities, they're conveniences that everyone assumes to be necessary.

i've seen many pay phones at train stops that were cut off the cord thingy.

and what about the people who go to school in Manhattan? say what if the UN or Chrysler Tower goes down. what would they do?
my sister used to go to school at Stuy and when the Twin Towers went down, they had to evacuate the building immediately, so she couldn't use a phone. [she didn't have a phone of her own at that time.] she ended up walking across the Queens Bridge with her friends, who also don't have cell phones, to Eastern Queens, which is about 10 miles or more miles away from the city.

sometimes in extreme emergencies, they are necessary. and i agree with you, those types of emergencies don't occur often, but after 9/11, parents seem think that cell phones are necessary. they're just scared that something like 9/11 might happen again.

[Spirited Away]

i've seen many pay phones at train stops that were cut off the cord thingy.

Right, and there are no working public phones in Manhattan subways. Why do I find that hard to believe?

and what about the people who go to school in Manhattan? say what if the UN or Chrysler Tower goes down. what would they do?

I've answered that already.

my sister used to go to school at Stuy and when the Twin Towers went down, they had to evacuate the building immediately, so she couldn't use a phone. [she didn't have a phone of her own at that time.] she ended up walking across the Queens Bridge with her friends, who also don't have cell phones, to Eastern Queens, which is about 10 miles or more miles away from the city.

... They couldn't find a phone? They couldn't went in a restaurant, or ANY business to plea for use of a phone? In that kind of emergency... and they couldn't, for the life of them, find a phone? Are you effing kidding me? I've been to NYC and I know people can be mean at times, but during that calamity and your sister couldn't get a sympathetic soul to lend a phone?

sometimes in extreme emergencies, they are necessary. and i agree with you, those types of emergencies don't occur often, but after 9/11, parents seem think that cell phones are necessary. they're just scared that something like 9/11 might happen again.

Yes, in extreme emergencies, they are a great convenience, and again, it is better to be safe than sorry. However, in those emergencies, do you have any idea how much more worst off it is for so many people to be calling around? On the day that Hurrican Rita was supposed to hit Houston, it took me TWO HOURS to get a clear line to call my family and friends because the network was busy. I tried my home phone as well as my cell phone. So in an emergency like 9-11, real emergency calls may not be able to get through because non-emergency users would be jamming the networks.

[think!IMAGINARIL...]

Right, and there are no working public phones in Manhattan subways. Why do I find that hard to believe?

... They couldn't find a phone? They couldn't went in a restaurant, or ANY business to plea for use of a phone? In that kind of emergency... and they couldn't, for the life of them, find a phone? Are you effing kidding me? I've been to NYC and I know people can be mean at times, but during that calamity and your sister couldn't get a sympathetic soul to lend a phone?
Yes, in extreme emergencies, they are a great convenience, and again, it is better to be safe than sorry. However, in those emergencies, do you have any idea how much more worst off it is for so many people to be calling around? On the day that Hurrican Rita was supposed to hit Houston, it took me TWO HOURS to get a clear line to call my family and friends because the network was busy. I tried my home phone as well as my cell phone. So in an emergency like 9-11, real emergency calls may not be able to get through because non-emergency users would be jamming the networks.

the train is crap. trust me. it normally smells of hobos, rotting soda bottles, garbage and most of all, piss. i've seen a few working, but a lot are cut off. and what if someone on the train is out to get you? what do you do? run to the nearest payphone and hope that s/he doesn't find you? when i was little, i used to think that the payphones were for killing people.

and besides, people were too busy running in terror. even the restaurant owners, business owners, ect. i mean, who wants to be the next to die? everyone was scared to death, watching people jumping out of buildings, body parts all over the place [that's how my sister described it to me.] my sister came home crying her eyes out.

you may have been to the city before, but i bet you've never been to western Queens or LIC. my sister walked across the bridge into LIC, a bad neighborhood. the train stop may seem nice and all, but that's 'cause they redid it a while back. (my friend almost got jumped there.) LICs crime rate is pretty high too (compared to some parts of Manhattan and eastern Queens). people aren't really that friendly there.

and yes, cell phone lines can get extremely crowded. especially T-Mobile around here. and most of the phone lines in the city were down.

I remember that during 9/11, it was almost impossible to call in or out of Manhattan, because so many people were using the phone system (and the collapse of the WTC had taken out a lot of landlines).

exactly what i was about to say.

[Spirited Away]

the train is crap. trust me. it normally smells of hobos, rotting soda bottles, garbage and most of all, piss. i've seen a few working, but a lot are cut off. and what if someone on the train is out to get you? what do you do? run to the nearest payphone and hope that s/he doesn't find you? when i was little, i used to think that the payphones were for killing people.

... Er, I've been on the trains; they aren't that bad, but losers can't be choosers. HISD (Houston Independent School District) school buses aren't great either, but I rode on them, too. But honey, with OR without cellphones people get raped, mugged, and killed. Having a cell doesn't lower your chances. In fact, in articles by Cosmo magazine AND others, it is said that women make themselves an easy target for attacks when they're chatting on cellphones instead of paying attention to their surroundings when walking. If you have statistics to contradict this in order to support your statement, I'd like to see it.

If someone is after you on the train, are you the only other person on the train? If you are, why are you riding the train that late or at times that you KNOW danger lurks? Kids shouldn't be out by themselves during those times. Or at least, smart kids shouldn't. If you don't have a choice, then find other people to stand with as soon as you get on the train. You don't get signal until you get out of the subway anyway. If someone attacks you and your signal is out... the best thing your cell can do for you is as something to throw at 'em.

and besides, people were too busy running in terror. even the restaurant owners, business owners, ect. i mean, who wants to be the next to die? everyone was scared to death, watching people jumping out of buildings, body parts all over the place [that's how my sister described it to me.] my sister came home crying her eyes out.

... yes, people were scared, I have no doubt of this. However, in those times, people band together. They were scared, but someone could have understand your sister's situation. I just think that it's stupid that a group of girls can't ask to use a phone. Did they even think to ask? I doubt it.

you may have been to the city before, but i bet you've never been to western Queens or LIC. my sister walked across the bridge into LIC, a bad neighborhood. the train stop may seem nice and all, but that's 'cause they redid it a while back. (my friend almost got jumped there.) LICs crime rate is pretty high too (compared to some parts of Manhattan and eastern Queens). people aren't really that friendly there.

People aren't friendly. Agreed. But are you saying that having cell phones will make you safer?

and yes, cell phone lines can get extremely crowded. especially T-Mobile around here. and most of the phone lines in the city were down.
exactly what i was about to say.

That is a point brought up by Micheal and I yet you agree, though it contradicts your argument? What? So you agree with me or you don't? If you do, then why the hell are we wasting our time?