What's Wrong With Rap? Options

[sillakilla220]

ok... first lets get all the cliche`s out the way....

- too much violence
- disrespects women
-cusses too much
- videos have too much ass-shaking

but this doesnt apply to all rap so im just wondering - what do ppl really have against rap music?

[typh-a-knee]

ha ok.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.

I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER

It's just so damn frail

I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny


For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of

None

Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing


we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence


everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost


from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop


it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today


when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of


when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through


when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it


we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too

people started to respect hip-hop as an art form


because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet



but now, what do we have?


Laffy Taffy

f**king Laffy Taffy



how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?


how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?


you can't



but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.

[sillakilla220]

ha ok.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.

I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER

It's just so damn frail

I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of

None

Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too

people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy

f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.

damn i really hope u are not serious. hip hop is hardly the sorriest excuse of music out right now. first of all, hip hop is so broad today there are soooo many forms of rap... yeah commercial rap right now might not be the highest quality of music i think we've all established that in this thread, but u gotta be out of your mind to disregard all the other artists who dont' get the mtv shine or radio airplay but put out dope ass sh*t... and even if u dont like the music u cant say that theres no meaning, essence, consciousness, blah blah blah blah considering u said yourself "its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too", the streets are all about selling crack, looking fresh, and f**kin bitches... if u have a problem with that then pick up sum f**kin talib kweli. its like i said, not all rap music is degrading, but ppl wanna lump all the sh*t together. there are sooooo many artists that are nowhere near today's stereotypical commercial rapper so if u really care ask around im sure u can find a recommendation. for someone claiming to be a rapper u are full of sh*t and dont kno anything, instead of defending yur trade u sit there and trash it w/ the rest of these jokes