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Do you misuse the word 'gay'?, What do you think about people that do?
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*Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg*
post Apr 15 2006, 12:59 PM
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I messed up the poll again... so, if you want to vote for the first one, just post it in a reply. Or one of the mods can fix it.

Personally, I find people who use the word "gay" to mean stupid is incredibly offensive. When a person says something like "THAT'S SO GAY!", I swear a blood vessel pops in my head. And when I bring it up with my friends, they say things like, "I have gay friends and they say it too!" Well, your gay friends are the only homosexuals in the whole world.

Anyway, what do you think of it? You obviously know my answer.

[I hope this is in the proper forum, if not feel free to move it!]
 
 
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crazeegirl411
post Apr 17 2006, 10:31 PM
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that IS just stupid, as well as childish, because it is a trivial, non sensical point, as female dogs are not capable of feeling offended by it... you are equating the emotions of an animal with that of a human being. I certainly feel that that is justification enough for saying it was a stupid point. It was a ridiculou thing to say

- yea, i accept other words that evolved... thats the point. but this one has a predefinition (word?) which makes the third definition offensive. that is the difference between it and othe rnew slang.

- no no... i understood your point, it just wasnt very good. its STILL the same thing, because it is the casual use of a word which may offend... are you honestly too dense to see that?

- to be honest, i cant think of a word which i use frequently which could be offensive to a group of people... if someone could give me a reasobale explanation of why it was offensive, then yes, i would try as much as possible to break that habit.

- cant be botherd to row about fag, because its the same argument over again.


I'm getting tired of this. You're putting your opinions in this way too much. "It's stupid, it's ridiculous, are you too dense?"

If you think that comparing animal and human being is different, then comparing a greeting with the adjective is the same thing. It's the same thing in equating two different things.

I didn't necessarily mean it's a word used frequently. But okay...
 
*I Shot JFK*
post Apr 18 2006, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 18 2006, 4:31 AM) *
I'm getting tired of this. You're putting your opinions in this way too much. "It's stupid, it's ridiculous, are you too dense?"

If you think that comparing animal and human being is different, then comparing a greeting with the adjective is the same thing. It's the same thing in equating two different things.

I didn't necessarily mean it's a word used frequently. But okay...

well... this is about opinions... you're opinion is that it is fine, mine is that it isnt... kind of the point of this kind of discussion.

see, now you're frustrating me. animals do not feel degraded by the use of bitch. it is no ta possibility. gay PEOPLE can. therein lies that difference.

the use of something as an adjective, vs that of a greeting is not a significant differenc, because it is STILL the casual use of a word which may cause offense in everyday conversation. the fact that you've got this hangup about parts of speech is preventing useful progression of the conversation. if you can explain to me why the part of speech is significant, then do so, rather than just stating the obvious.

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Well..he IS allowed to post his opinions, even though he doesn't have to be so scathing about it.

well the point WAS ridiculous. dont say something in a debate or whatever and then assume no one will call you on it.

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but remarks like "your point is stupid" is just unnecessary.

not really. its a condensed expression of why what you are ssaying is irrelevant, adn was accompanied by an explanation. get over it.
 
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:51 AM
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well... this is about opinions... you're opinion is that it is fine, mine is that it isnt... kind of the point of this kind of discussion.

see, now you're frustrating me. animals do not feel degraded by the use of bitch. it is no ta possibility. gay PEOPLE can. therein lies that difference.

the use of something as an adjective, vs that of a greeting is not a significant differenc, because it is STILL the casual use of a word which may cause offense in everyday conversation. the fact that you've got this hangup about parts of speech is preventing useful progression of the conversation. if you can explain to me why the part of speech is significant, then do so, rather than just stating the obvious.


well the point WAS ridiculous. dont say something in a debate or whatever and then assume no one will call you on it.


not really. its a condensed expression of why what you are ssaying is irrelevant, adn was accompanied by an explanation. get over it.


I already stated that it is this "argument" is opinionated so opinions are necessary, although judgements like something is ridiculous or stupid is unnecessary. Why don't YOU get over people using the word gay if I have to get over you giving your little opinions in a debate? Your opinion is fine to me (how you feel about the use of the word, "gay" nowadays). I was trying to prove my opinion. Not attack your opinions.

Because you're getting upset over the use of gay. They're not calling people gay, they are describing something as gay. How can you parallel that with "Hey nigger," if they are not personally attacking gay people like that? If they don't mean to attack gay people by calling them names like that, but merely using it as a third meaning that you do not accept, it is a BIG difference.
 
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post Apr 18 2006, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 18 2006, 1:51 PM) *
I already stated that it is this "argument" is opinionated so opinions are necessary, although judgements like something is ridiculous or stupid is unnecessary. Why don't YOU get over people using the word gay if I have to get over you giving your little opinions in a debate? Your opinion is fine to me (how you feel about the use of the word, "gay" nowadays). I was trying to prove my opinion. Not attack your opinions.

Because you're getting upset over the use of gay. They're not calling people gay, they are describing something as gay. How can you parallel that with "Hey nigger," if they are not personally attacking gay people like that? If they don't mean to attack gay people by calling them names like that, but merely using it as a third meaning that you do not accept, it is a BIG difference.

well you were doing it badly. life goes on, i suppose.

no. no no no no no. i THINK you've over-thought the point i was tring to make. casual use of nigger can offend african americans. casual use of gay can offend homosexuals. that is the parallel. it is THAT simple.

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And you have the nerve to tell me that the things I say are ignorant? -_- Saying "Your point is stupid," even with an explanation in a debate is childish. Accept that you're not perfect and above us all.


well, childish or not it was true. and perfection isnt a requirement for seeing clear flaws...

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Crazeegirl411, stop arguing with him. I agree with you, so you can be content with that. You're not going to change his mind, and he's not going to change ours.


how boring is that! sigh...

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Nobody's opinions will change unless you state very good reasons why they should stop saying things are gay. I could list 250 people who use the statement "that's so gay" in place of "that's so stupid". It doesn't matter. It's not referring to "homosexual" people. End of story.

well tahnk you captain obvious...

surely, if people take offense, it DOES matter. and by having this conversation, you're aknowledging that it does matter.
 

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   Do you misuse the word 'gay'?   Apr 15 2006, 12:59 PM
I Shot JFK   i may love you. i think i've had this rant ab...   Apr 15 2006, 01:00 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 15 2006, 2:00 PM) ...   Apr 15 2006, 01:01 PM
I Shot JFK   no worries. i made a similar thread myself AGES ag...   Apr 15 2006, 01:04 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 15 2006, 2:04 PM) ...   Apr 15 2006, 01:14 PM
bRoKeNxALoNE   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 15 2006, 11:04 AM)...   Apr 17 2006, 05:27 PM
StanleyThePanda   I dont usually misuse it, no. Rarely.... Alot of ...   Apr 15 2006, 01:16 PM
zomgznoway   No. It's stupid to misuse the word "gay....   Apr 15 2006, 01:18 PM
chaneun   To be honest, I misuse it. I don't do it ofte...   Apr 15 2006, 01:35 PM
fathomlessdame   im sorry but i use it to mean stupid. its kinda a...   Apr 15 2006, 01:37 PM
APPLEjuicex   i missuse it all the time but i think its just a c...   Apr 15 2006, 01:38 PM
oneandonlytammie   This thread is soooo gay. Just kidding. Yeah it b...   Apr 15 2006, 01:48 PM
tic tac.   I used to misuse it, but I don't now. I've...   Apr 15 2006, 01:53 PM
ROARxD   I misuse it alot. I agree with APPLEjuicex, i thin...   Apr 15 2006, 01:57 PM
AngelicEyz00   I misuse it at times, but it's usually at home...   Apr 15 2006, 02:04 PM
Smoogrish   I absolutely hate it when people do that. I was tr...   Apr 15 2006, 02:43 PM
crazeegirl411   You see...to me, if you think saying that word is ...   Apr 15 2006, 03:25 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 15 2006, 9:25 P...   Apr 15 2006, 04:25 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 15 2006, 4:25 P...   Apr 15 2006, 06:24 PM
skp86   gay actually means "happy" so people are...   Apr 15 2006, 03:28 PM
incoherent   QUOTE(skp86 @ Apr 15 2006, 3:28 PM) gay a...   Apr 17 2006, 09:30 PM
L!ckitySplit   i admit i used to. some of my friend still do like...   Apr 15 2006, 03:29 PM
My Cinderella.   No. I don't misuse it. I find it irritating wh...   Apr 15 2006, 03:29 PM
Madame C   I used to, back in high school. Then I came to co...   Apr 15 2006, 05:51 PM
x__Elle.   I use the word. I just see it as today's other...   Apr 15 2006, 06:15 PM
Madame C   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 15 2006, 7:15 PM) I ...   Apr 15 2006, 06:26 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Madame C @ Apr 15 2006, 6:26 PM) Bu...   Apr 15 2006, 06:48 PM
imnoxonesmemory   i say "gay" for everything. unless i kno...   Apr 15 2006, 06:24 PM
Madame C   ^ Well, yeah, I know that, but you're equating...   Apr 15 2006, 06:50 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Madame C @ Apr 15 2006, 6:50 PM) ^ ...   Apr 15 2006, 06:53 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 16 2006, 12:53 AM) I...   Apr 16 2006, 05:55 AM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 16 2006, 5:55 AM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 12:34 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 16 2006, 6:34 PM) Ye...   Apr 16 2006, 02:41 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 16 2006, 2:41 PM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 04:19 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 16 2006, 10:19 PM) L...   Apr 16 2006, 04:31 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 16 2006, 4:31 PM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 05:00 PM
crazeegirl411   QUOTEthe point about bitch was just stupid. as if ...   Apr 16 2006, 09:08 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 17 2006, 3:08 A...   Apr 17 2006, 11:28 AM
aicilah999   I HATE IT WHEN PPL MISUSE IT...annoys me... haha. ...   Apr 15 2006, 08:08 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(aicilah999 @ Apr 15 2006, 8:08 PM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 02:03 PM
SKDMNLE   Well, yeah, I use it with certian people. I say it...   Apr 16 2006, 02:12 AM
mo_rox   lots of people get mad over this but i don't c...   Apr 16 2006, 12:32 PM
Jenny Tran   i'll have to admit, i do misuse it..and most o...   Apr 16 2006, 12:34 PM
Rachel is love   I definently remember that thread James, we should...   Apr 16 2006, 12:38 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Apr 16 2006, 12:38...   Apr 16 2006, 12:43 PM
crazeegirl411   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 15 2006, 2:25 PM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 01:28 PM
lilxl0ser   hmm well, i used to a lot. but that was a while ag...   Apr 16 2006, 01:37 PM
juliar   i stopped saying it out loud and usually i dont on...   Apr 16 2006, 03:00 PM
Paul M. is baaack   I do use it un-approprately, to mock of ridocule s...   Apr 16 2006, 03:02 PM
No Fear   I used to say it a lot, though now I don't say...   Apr 16 2006, 04:25 PM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo   yes I do some times ..   Apr 16 2006, 04:27 PM
Jorge   'this thread is gay'   Apr 16 2006, 06:16 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Jorge @ Apr 16 2006, 6:16 PM) ...   Apr 16 2006, 06:21 PM
Jorge   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 16 2006, 7:21 PM) Yo...   Apr 16 2006, 07:43 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Jorge @ Apr 16 2006, 7:43 PM) It...   Apr 16 2006, 08:21 PM
x1049   I don't really say the word in general, but wh...   Apr 16 2006, 07:37 PM
Teesa   I sometimes misuse it, but I don't really use ...   Apr 16 2006, 08:39 PM
SuzieRawkSoxx   Umm i dont really even use that word im just like ...   Apr 17 2006, 09:26 AM
Girthy   Voltaire, nice touch. Anywho.... QUOTE(I Shot JFK...   Apr 17 2006, 11:43 AM
I Shot JFK   well no. im saying that when the word 'gay...   Apr 17 2006, 12:00 PM
Girthy   I agree I agree, but if the given situation were i...   Apr 17 2006, 12:10 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Girthy @ Apr 17 2006, 6:10 PM) I ag...   Apr 17 2006, 01:24 PM
fatal emotions   I've misused the word "gay" alot in ...   Apr 17 2006, 01:50 PM
visualfusion   In my opinion, only people with little self-esteem...   Apr 17 2006, 02:03 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(visualfusion @ Apr 17 2006, 8:03 PM...   Apr 17 2006, 02:14 PM
Paul M. is baaack   Funily enough, anybody I've used it on hasn...   Apr 17 2006, 02:04 PM
Jorge   I use it daily, I could really care less if people...   Apr 17 2006, 02:05 PM
Paul M. is baaack   Well, to take it badly, I believe you would have t...   Apr 17 2006, 02:08 PM
Jorge   But do homosexual people call eachother Gay's?   Apr 17 2006, 02:17 PM
I Shot JFK   well they refer to the 'gay population', a...   Apr 17 2006, 02:19 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg @ Apr 15 2006,...   Apr 17 2006, 02:25 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   This is the thing: I don't adhere to the predo...   Apr 17 2006, 03:07 PM
Jorge   Yes, but they don't all go around using it a m...   Apr 17 2006, 03:08 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Jorge @ Apr 17 2006, 9:08 PM) Yes, ...   Apr 17 2006, 04:14 PM
Zatanna   Every once in a while I'll say something like,...   Apr 17 2006, 03:15 PM
tanichick   I always missuse the word gay like... "oh wo...   Apr 17 2006, 05:24 PM
tahco_monster   i use it all the time :x and i agree with tanichic...   Apr 17 2006, 09:38 PM
crazeegirl411   QUOTEthat IS just stupid, as well as childish, bec...   Apr 17 2006, 10:31 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 18 2006, 4:31 A...   Apr 18 2006, 03:40 AM
crazeegirl411   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 18 2006, 1:40 AM) ...   Apr 18 2006, 07:51 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ Apr 18 2006, 1:51 P...   Apr 18 2006, 10:39 AM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 18 2006, 3:40 AM) ...   Apr 18 2006, 08:24 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 18 2006, 9:24 AM) Yo...   Apr 18 2006, 08:41 AM
Statues/Shadows   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 18 2006, 9:24 AM) Yo...   Apr 18 2006, 09:27 AM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Apr 18 2006, 9:27...   Apr 18 2006, 04:24 PM
My Cinderella.   Ever since I found out my sister was...that way. I...   Apr 17 2006, 10:35 PM
L!ckitySplit   guys i just wanna address something, dont use bada...   Apr 17 2006, 10:42 PM
x__Elle.   ^ That made my day. =) QUOTE(crazeegirl411 @ ...   Apr 17 2006, 10:45 PM
crazeegirl411   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 17 2006, 8:45 PM) ^ ...   Apr 17 2006, 11:21 PM
L!ckitySplit   yeah jfk dude is kinda mean... unecessarilly mean,...   Apr 17 2006, 10:49 PM
Stately Lover   That's soo straight! Eh, I don't reall...   Apr 17 2006, 11:20 PM
taggy505   Like last year to two years ago, I would really mi...   Apr 17 2006, 11:24 PM
Jorge   Nobody's opinions will change unless you state...   Apr 18 2006, 08:42 AM
Jorge2   Don't take my opinions too seriously now Capta...   Apr 18 2006, 12:34 PM
Weird addiction   You like bananas? That is so gay. What the HELL is...   Apr 18 2006, 12:37 PM
Jorge2   It's most commenly passed down. You hear what ...   Apr 18 2006, 12:50 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Jorge2 @ Apr 18 2006, 6:50 PM) It...   Apr 18 2006, 01:31 PM
chaneun   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 18 2006, 2:31 PM) ...   Apr 18 2006, 01:41 PM
Weird addiction   Haha. Funny.   Apr 18 2006, 01:53 PM
disco infiltrator   I edited your poll for you. I don't know why ...   Apr 18 2006, 04:30 PM
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