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myspace privacy., gone too far?
pandamonium
post Apr 12 2006, 09:11 PM
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a girl posted a blog on myspace from washington township, a school close to mine, on that blog she posted about 17 people she hated and one of those people she said she wanted to kill. They arrested her as soon as someone saw this blog. But she went away with a warning and won't be attending school for a while.

Do you think it is right they arrested her? I mean there are probably several other people who right on their diaries or journals (online or not) about what happened in the day and say they wanna kill someone but aren't as serious. Do you think they took this too far by arresting?

(ps - I didnt know whether this was serious enough to go to debate, so move it if it is. )
 
 
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post Apr 13 2006, 09:45 AM
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Most time when students say things like "I want to kill so-and-so", they don't really mean it. The problem is, as recent school shootings have shown, in a tiny number of circumstances the person really means it. This creates a problem for the authorities: If they know about a death threat, even a joke, and do nothing about it, and the person carries through on the threat, can they be held responsible? You can bet the parents of the victim would likely bring such a case to civil court. We live in a society where no one has personal responsibility anymore. A death isn't the fault of the killer; it's the fault of the killer, the media, the authorities for not doing more to stop it, and so forth. Arresting people for these sorts of charges is just a cover-my-ass move by those in control.

Do I think a person should be arrested every time they make such a (likely idle) threat? In an ideal society, no. But we hardly live in an ideal society. I don't have tons of sympathy for people who post things like that online, because by now, they should know better. I'm always quite careful about what I say about people online no matter what the context.
 
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post Apr 13 2006, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 13 2006, 9:45 AM) *
Most time when students say things like "I want to kill so-and-so", they don't really mean it. The problem is, as recent school shootings have shown, in a tiny number of circumstances the person really means it. This creates a problem for the authorities: If they know about a death threat, even a joke, and do nothing about it, and the person carries through on the threat, can they be held responsible? You can bet the parents of the victim would likely bring such a case to civil court. We live in a society where no one has personal responsibility anymore. A death isn't the fault of the killer; it's the fault of the killer, the media, the authorities for not doing more to stop it, and so forth. Arresting people for these sorts of charges is just a cover-my-ass move by those in control.

Do I think a person should be arrested every time they make such a (likely idle) threat? In an ideal society, no. But we hardly live in an ideal society. I don't have tons of sympathy for people who post things like that online, because by now, they should know better. I'm always quite careful about what I say about people online no matter what the context.



I know where you are getting at but like i said its a journal/diary people need to vent those things out. thats kind of like their way of taking action. People who get teased everyday might just brush it off but online they try to release that anger, some people play sports to vent.

And i also know if she did kill that girl we would of been like oh yea she should of been arrested when they found out that she wrote that blog on myspace. But i think this went a little too far cause its her blog, her privacy.
 
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post Apr 15 2006, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 13 2006, 6:00 PM) *
I know where you are getting at but like i said its a journal/diary people need to vent those things out. thats kind of like their way of taking action. People who get teased everyday might just brush it off but online they try to release that anger, some people play sports to vent.

And i also know if she did kill that girl we would of been like oh yea she should of been arrested when they found out that she wrote that blog on myspace. But i think this went a little too far cause its her blog, her privacy.

no, sorry. wanting to rant in a journal isnt an acceptable excuse when the person has full knowledge that what they write will be published on the internet. NO ONE could reasonably assume that no one would read it... if you want a private rant, go all low tech and buy a notebook, and hide it under your mattress

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naivety strikes!

i agree with michael. the idea of reporting myspace postings to the police seems distasteful, and over the top. but, in today's society, one cannot assume that a threat is nothing but a joke. the police have to think ahead, to cover their own asses, and to protect against a potential threat.

and has anyone considered that their may be more to this story? everyone has said that it is normal fo rpeople to say 'oh i wanna kill him' when they're pissed off, which i agree with. do we not think that the police KNOW that? and so there was something different about this instance that called for special attention?
 

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pandamonium   myspace privacy.   Apr 12 2006, 09:11 PM
tic tac.   Wow, they arrested her because of that? People ran...   Apr 12 2006, 09:17 PM
Frankie   arresting someone may be a little too far but nowa...   Apr 12 2006, 09:17 PM
pandamonium   QUOTE(Frankie @ Apr 12 2006, 9:17 PM) arr...   Apr 12 2006, 09:22 PM
LiLEthiopian   QUOTE(Frankie @ Apr 12 2006, 10:17 PM) ar...   Apr 15 2006, 01:22 PM
incoherent   it's starting to get serious. theyve blocked a...   Apr 12 2006, 09:23 PM
Chii   I don't know what was she wrote but I think it...   Apr 12 2006, 09:27 PM
Kristinaa   Anything myspace is getting crazy. My school has g...   Apr 12 2006, 09:29 PM
Cake.   they probably thought she was like a serial killer...   Apr 12 2006, 09:42 PM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   They shouldn't have arrested her. They should...   Apr 12 2006, 09:48 PM
My Cinderella.   I think they're being a little too paranoid. M...   Apr 12 2006, 09:54 PM
monde libre   There's a common misconception that what one s...   Apr 12 2006, 11:00 PM
Heathasm   its safer than waiting for her to actually kill th...   Apr 12 2006, 11:27 PM
AngelicEyz00   They didn't take it too far by arresting her. ...   Apr 13 2006, 12:50 AM
lidoxangie   ---------   Apr 13 2006, 12:54 AM
Paradox of Life   ^ ... That's horrible. And yes, I do think th...   Apr 13 2006, 08:37 AM
SyKoKiNeSiS   I think they made a law about it recently or somet...   Apr 13 2006, 08:43 AM
Jayembe   nah the shoudlnt of arrested that girl becuase eve...   Apr 13 2006, 08:57 AM
mipadi   Most time when students say things like "I wa...   Apr 13 2006, 09:45 AM
pandamonium   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 13 2006, 9:45 AM) Most...   Apr 13 2006, 12:00 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 13 2006, 1:00 PM)...   Apr 13 2006, 12:23 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 13 2006, 6:00 PM)...   Apr 15 2006, 07:07 AM
ROARxD   they shouldn't have arrested her. it was proba...   Apr 13 2006, 11:00 AM
niez_cho   I wonder if they'll start to do the same for e...   Apr 13 2006, 11:18 AM
celticsluvr   yeah it is.i agree with the thing. because my dad ...   Apr 13 2006, 11:20 AM
Smoogrish   I think if she was serious enough about the killin...   Apr 13 2006, 11:46 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   why arrest her ? is there any proof that she's...   Apr 13 2006, 01:30 PM
extravaganza   I think it is right, I mean, you can rant without ...   Apr 13 2006, 01:35 PM
Kristizzle.   Where else to rant but on the internet? D;   Apr 13 2006, 02:06 PM
x__Elle.   Absolutely not.. It's her private space on th...   Apr 13 2006, 06:34 PM
oneandonlytammie   No reason to arrest. If the person felt threatened...   Apr 13 2006, 06:43 PM
skp86   The same thing happened at the highschool that i...   Apr 13 2006, 06:57 PM
peggysturr   I would rather let MySpace do the the punishment. ...   Apr 13 2006, 07:58 PM
imnoxonesmemory   It depends what her blog said because it could hav...   Apr 13 2006, 08:18 PM
jooleeah   Almost the same thing happened to one of my friend...   Apr 14 2006, 10:09 PM


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