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Respudious
post Apr 11 2006, 03:38 PM
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How many of you feel like you are highly educated on our government? Do you feel like imperialism has dominated the inner-workings of our government and it is the interest of top corporations that reign supreme over the interests of the people nowadays? What are your feelings on the Wolfowitz Doctrine? I'm sorry for all the questions but recently I have devoted time to trying to uncover the other side of our war policies and it's startled me. I feel like our nation has been misled greatly by the inentions of our government. I saw in another post that someone said only 28 civilians were killed so far this year or something like that? Fallujah was a massacre!! Soldiers were told any person walking was an enemy target, and this is from the first hand testimony of a soldier himself. Don't take this as an anti-american rant because I love our country, yet I feel there are flaws within our country, mainly foreign policies. 9/11 was a pain inflicted by our own country! If you are offended by this I'm sorry, but all the facts point to this conclusion. What are your feelings on the government, and how did you reach these feelings?

well I hope I didn't scare away any potential debaters if this is a subject over your heads, or hopefully you debaters are just gathering up your ammo by doing research which I encourage, because this is not a subject to come mis-informed on.

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post Apr 14 2006, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 11 2006, 3:38 PM) *
well I hope I didn't scare away any potential debaters if this is a subject over your heads, or hopefully you debaters are just gathering up your ammo by doing research which I encourage, because this is not a subject to come mis-informed on.



If you offer a topic that follows debate protocol, I'll be sure to enter. In no way have you presented this topic in a manner that reflects an understanding of these procedures. Here's a link that you should spend some time studying.

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What you have written is more closely aligned with an editorial. It's also a good idea to assume your readership has the fundamental capacity to engage a debate. Don't assume you're the authority on this subject because you visited a few websites. While you may be passionate about your views, don't degrade others. You may end up figuratively eating your words.

My response to your topic follows...

Your post is a call for victims to unite! Faced with the daunting task of identifying the "enemy" within our nation, it is convenitent to hide behind monolithic corporate structures, the military-industrial complex and the impenetrable ranks of the imperialist elite.

How can any citizen begin to alter the course of fate when staring at the infinate and all-knowing power of THEM? *shudders*

By embracing the capacity to vote, the citizens of this nation can not only elect officials that represent the voice of the people, they can also effect the creation of political parties and legislation that is a function of their united voice.

Your suggestion that people are being duped is repulsive. Get off you ass and do something about it. Quit bitching and sniveling. There are many accounts throughout the course of history that demonstrate the ability of the people to change policy and procedures. The creation of this nation is one such example.

Although I am a staunch Democrat, stand firmly against the war and abhor our current state of international relations, I do not feel this thread represents the foundation that is needed to heal our collective psyche, end the war or establish non-unilateral international policies.

The seed of change is nurtured through empowerment of the people. This pseudo-tabloid presentation of "facts" is not only ineffective, it encourages apathy. That is unacceptable.
 

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Respudious   US government   Apr 11 2006, 03:38 PM
I Shot JFK   oh dont be silly, you scare no one, and dont doubl...   Apr 11 2006, 05:02 PM
Respudious   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 11 2006, 3:02 PM) ...   Apr 11 2006, 06:02 PM
monde libre   This really isn't a debate topic; it needs to ...   Apr 11 2006, 09:12 PM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTEDo you feel like imperialism has dominated th...   Apr 11 2006, 09:41 PM
monde libre   QUOTEso, a few sentences explaining what you love ...   Apr 11 2006, 09:57 PM
I Shot JFK   its funny to think that all of this is coming from...   Apr 12 2006, 05:18 AM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTEits funny to think that all of this is coming...   Apr 12 2006, 09:10 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Apr 12 2006, 3...   Apr 12 2006, 12:21 PM
Respudious   http://www.911busters.com/New_911_Evidence/index.h...   Apr 13 2006, 01:31 AM
CrackedRearView   Honestly, Respudious, I wasn't inclined to rep...   Apr 13 2006, 08:44 AM
Respudious   To be honest whether you agree with the name of th...   Apr 13 2006, 12:02 PM
monde libre   Oooh, you're really asking for it, Respudious....   Apr 13 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 11 2006, 3:38 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 12:11 AM
illumineering   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 11 2006, 3:38 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 12:45 AM
Respudious   CrackedRearView - Please don't start assuming ...   Apr 14 2006, 04:41 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 14 2006, 10:41 AM)...   Apr 14 2006, 08:16 AM
nothing_plus_this   you've both succeeded at making me fall in lov...   Apr 14 2006, 08:23 AM
monde libre   ^ And do you have anything intelligent to contribu...   Apr 14 2006, 11:03 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 5:03 PM)...   Apr 14 2006, 12:01 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 11:03 AM...   Apr 14 2006, 12:54 PM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 12:03 PM...   Apr 14 2006, 01:02 PM
Respudious   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 9:03 AM)...   Apr 14 2006, 03:46 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 14 2006, 4:46 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:39 PM
CrackedRearView   Alright, down to business. QUOTE(Respudious ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:20 PM
I Shot JFK   oh i dunno, mindy... i kinda prefer the cookies...   Apr 15 2006, 06:33 AM


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