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Respudious
post Apr 11 2006, 03:38 PM
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How many of you feel like you are highly educated on our government? Do you feel like imperialism has dominated the inner-workings of our government and it is the interest of top corporations that reign supreme over the interests of the people nowadays? What are your feelings on the Wolfowitz Doctrine? I'm sorry for all the questions but recently I have devoted time to trying to uncover the other side of our war policies and it's startled me. I feel like our nation has been misled greatly by the inentions of our government. I saw in another post that someone said only 28 civilians were killed so far this year or something like that? Fallujah was a massacre!! Soldiers were told any person walking was an enemy target, and this is from the first hand testimony of a soldier himself. Don't take this as an anti-american rant because I love our country, yet I feel there are flaws within our country, mainly foreign policies. 9/11 was a pain inflicted by our own country! If you are offended by this I'm sorry, but all the facts point to this conclusion. What are your feelings on the government, and how did you reach these feelings?

well I hope I didn't scare away any potential debaters if this is a subject over your heads, or hopefully you debaters are just gathering up your ammo by doing research which I encourage, because this is not a subject to come mis-informed on.

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Do you feel like imperialism has dominated the inner-workings of our government and it is the interest of top corporations that reign supreme over the interests of the people nowadays?

i think there are plenty of issues that "reign supreme" over the needs and interests of the general population. this has been a flaw of our country for quite some time. but, i don't think corporations or capitalism being extrordinarily important is just the US's problem. the entire world depends on these things, so to say that it is the biggest problem in the US is incorrect.

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What are your feelings on the Wolfowitz Doctrine?

to repeat what i seem to be saying constantly, i do not believe the united states has any right whatsoever to police and/or govern other countries. i think that whatever rules we force upon others in treaties/doctrines/what-the-hell-ever, should also be applied and enforced on our soil and on our population/government/armed forces. i feel that countries's governments working together is the only way things will work properly.

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I feel like our nation has been misled greatly by the inentions of our government. I saw in another post that someone said only 28 civilians were killed so far this year or something like that? Fallujah was a massacre!! Soldiers were told any person walking was an enemy target, and this is from the first hand testimony of a soldier himself.

i won't deny that i sometimes feel we are being misinformed and mislead by the government and the media. but, i also won't deny that i sometimes wonder what would happen if every single truth was revealed and the citizens knew everything. i'm not entirely sure that things would be much better. sometimes it is necessary, as wrong as it may seem, for the population to be left in the dark. shrug. it's a subject i'm conflicted on, personally.


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Don't take this as an anti-american rant because I love our country, yet I feel there are flaws within our country, mainly foreign policies.

i am so tired of people tiptoeing around others' emotions when it comes to patriotism. i'm not patriotic. at all. i have a tendency to concentrate more on the flaws of the United States rather than the pluses because the flaws will be what brings us down. so, as an effect of that, i come off as severely anti-american. just because i want to see things fixed rather than praise the few things we have going for us (which, in some cases, have also been the cause of our biggest flaws and some of the most prominent problems with society). so, sticking in "i love our country' just so you won't be bombarded with rabid patriots, is silly to me.

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9/11 was a pain inflicted by our own country!

in some ways, yes. the US governments actions of the past coupled with the fact that the US is the leading superpower (i believe?!) in the world, we are bound to be the target of "lesser" countries' rage. however, i have explored the theories and rumours surrounding the events of 9/11 and i don't believe that it was a huge evil plot of the government to destroy human lives. as idiotic as he may be, president bush isn't like, the antichrist. so, i can't say i disagree with such statements, but i also can't say i agree with what you are implying.


but, honestly. i've become pretty apathetic recently when it comes to politics and the government. which is sad and pathetic, i agree. but, in the all american fashion, i've decided that my life and my corner of the world is more important and that whatever problems i may have are more pressing than those of the world.

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Respudious   US government   Apr 11 2006, 03:38 PM
I Shot JFK   oh dont be silly, you scare no one, and dont doubl...   Apr 11 2006, 05:02 PM
Respudious   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Apr 11 2006, 3:02 PM) ...   Apr 11 2006, 06:02 PM
monde libre   This really isn't a debate topic; it needs to ...   Apr 11 2006, 09:12 PM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTEDo you feel like imperialism has dominated th...   Apr 11 2006, 09:41 PM
monde libre   QUOTEso, a few sentences explaining what you love ...   Apr 11 2006, 09:57 PM
I Shot JFK   its funny to think that all of this is coming from...   Apr 12 2006, 05:18 AM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTEits funny to think that all of this is coming...   Apr 12 2006, 09:10 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Apr 12 2006, 3...   Apr 12 2006, 12:21 PM
Respudious   http://www.911busters.com/New_911_Evidence/index.h...   Apr 13 2006, 01:31 AM
CrackedRearView   Honestly, Respudious, I wasn't inclined to rep...   Apr 13 2006, 08:44 AM
Respudious   To be honest whether you agree with the name of th...   Apr 13 2006, 12:02 PM
monde libre   Oooh, you're really asking for it, Respudious....   Apr 13 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 11 2006, 3:38 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 12:11 AM
illumineering   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 11 2006, 3:38 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 12:45 AM
Respudious   CrackedRearView - Please don't start assuming ...   Apr 14 2006, 04:41 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 14 2006, 10:41 AM)...   Apr 14 2006, 08:16 AM
nothing_plus_this   you've both succeeded at making me fall in lov...   Apr 14 2006, 08:23 AM
monde libre   ^ And do you have anything intelligent to contribu...   Apr 14 2006, 11:03 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 5:03 PM)...   Apr 14 2006, 12:01 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 11:03 AM...   Apr 14 2006, 12:54 PM
nothing_plus_this   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 12:03 PM...   Apr 14 2006, 01:02 PM
Respudious   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 14 2006, 9:03 AM)...   Apr 14 2006, 03:46 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(Respudious @ Apr 14 2006, 4:46 PM) ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:39 PM
CrackedRearView   Alright, down to business. QUOTE(Respudious ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:20 PM
I Shot JFK   oh i dunno, mindy... i kinda prefer the cookies...   Apr 15 2006, 06:33 AM


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