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Columbine High School Shooting Massacre, Way back in April 20, 1999
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post Feb 2 2006, 07:37 PM
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I recently watched a documentary called Bowling for Columbine. It's basically about a high school massacre in Columbine High School and the director's thoughts on gun violence.


Anyways I really want to talk about the high school shooting a bit more. It's the second deadliest attack on a school and the deadliest school shooting. The two shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and teachers and injured 24 others. The documentary I mentioned earlier has detailed footage of what had happened through the security cameras (boy were they brutal). These two students were "out-casts" of the school and were full of hatred towards their fellow students.

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The Columbine High School massacre occurred on Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at Columbine High School in unincorporated Jefferson County, Colorado, near Denver and Littleton, Colorado, in the United States. Two teenage students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, carried out a shooting rampage, killing twelve fellow students and a teacher, as well as wounding twenty-four others, before committing suicide. It is considered to be the deadliest school shooting, and the second deadliest attack on a school in US History.

The massacre provoked refined debate regarding gun control laws and the availability of firearms in the United States. Much discussion also centered on the nature of high school cliques and bullying, as well as the role of violent movies and video games in American society. Several of the victims who were believed to have been killed due to their religious beliefs became a source of inspiration to others, notably Christians, and led some to lament the decline of religion in public education and society in general. The shooting also resulted in an increased emphasis on school security, and a moral panic aimed at goth culture, heavy metal music, social pariahs, the use of pharmaceutical anti-depressants by teenagers, violent films and violent video games


here is a detailed article of it:
Wikipedia explains what happened before, during, and after the shooting
The Depressive and the Psychopath

I know this happened years ago, but I want to see if there were people who actually went to Columbine, heard of it in the news by the time it came out, and a few of your reactions (and theories as to why this happened).
 
 
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NoSex
post Apr 8 2006, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 8 2006, 9:45 AM) *
i agree. she did what she did and we shouldn't be arguing about a decision that's already been made.


I think it's important. Very.

Have you not even been reading the thread? Did you not notice the rather thorough artical post by Mipadi concerning the story behind her "decision?" Did you entirely miss that the incident never even happened? It's a made up story. Did you really miss it, or did you just ignore it?


QUOTE(CHiiCKENBUTT @ Apr 8 2006, 2:56 PM) *
she didn't commit suicide she died for god. there's nothing wrong with that. this was a really sad story. & i wouldn't lie about someone like god just to save my life. that's crack head behavior. TELL THE TRUTH about god. jeez people.


Refer to the above.
Also, I'm going to go strap some bombs to my chest now.

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post Apr 8 2006, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 8 2006, 6:42 PM) *
I think it's important. Very.

Have you not even been reading the thread? Did you not notice the rather thorough artical post by Mipadi concerning the story behind her "decision?" Did you entirely miss that the incident never even happened? It's a made up story. Did you really miss it, or did you just ignore it?


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i ignored it because it's one of the most true stories around. read She Said Yes. it tells that she did in fact say "yes" on several accounts. maybe when you read it you'll realize that it most definately was a true story and maybe you'll end up respecting her a little more than you do now.


by the way, i'm done arguing with you on this. we obviously have different points of view and we both are too stubborn to see the other side. so i'm done.
 
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post Apr 8 2006, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 8 2006, 6:02 PM) *
i ignored it because it's one of the most true stories around. read She Said Yes. maybe you'll realize that it most definately was a true story and maybe you'll end up respecting her a little more.
by the way, i'm done arguing with you on this. we obviously have different points of view and we both are too stubborn to see the other side. so i'm done.


How is it one of the "most true stories around?" How exactly do you know such things?

Do you honestly not realize the dangerous implications your statements have? Don't you also notice that you assuming that there is indeed a god, without any real reason, and believing that this god is a particular Christian God which would favor someone dieing over them lieing about their belief in him.

What if she was a hindu and was asked if she believed in Brahma? Would it have been foolish of her to say yes then? I take it you don't believe in Hinduism.

The foolishness in praising martydom is powerful, and plentiful. This is why this is important, this is why it's dangerous.

I'm not stubborn or close minded or anything. I can definately see your side. But, I don't think it is correct. I would read the book, but I just read an article explaining why it isn't true. Although, I would still love to hear what the book has to say exactly about it (Meaning the evidence proving it ever occured in the first place).

Take a look at it. Expand your mind. By ignoring it, you're just admiting your close-minded and willing ignorance.

Here, look (From Wikipedia):

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Official reports state that Harris then walked over to the table across from the lower computer row, slapped the top twice with his hand, knelt down, and said "peek-a-boo" before shooting Cassie Bernall in the head. The recoil from the weapon hit his face, breaking his nose. Although it is popularly believed that Bernall was the individual who was asked "Do you believe in God?", the official investigation has attributed this remark not to Bernall but to a surviving student, Valeen Schnurr (see below). Three students who witnessed Bernall's death, including the person that was hiding under the table with her, have testified the exchange did not occur.[16] Nevertheless, others who were in the library asserted the exchange occurred, though none of these students physically witnessed it. They may instead have heard the later exchange between Klebold and Schnurr and been mislead by news reports attributing the words to Bernall. This misunderstanding sparked much debate as to whether the official investigation thoroughly assessed all possibilities.


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The official investigation into the shootings concluded that Cassie did not have the exchange.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Hig...of_the_shooters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassie_Bernall
 

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Blow_Don't_SUCK   Columbine High School Shooting Massacre   Feb 2 2006, 07:37 PM
mipadi   I remember it really well. I was in seventh grade ...   Feb 2 2006, 07:53 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 2 2006, 7:53 PM) I rem...   Apr 4 2006, 08:10 PM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   ^O where are you now? College? I was in the Phili...   Feb 2 2006, 08:05 PM
Kristinaa   Don't completly trust a documentary...half the...   Feb 2 2006, 08:08 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 9:08 PM) Do...   Apr 4 2006, 06:17 AM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   ^HOLY shiiit seriously? So you're saying it in...   Feb 2 2006, 08:09 PM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   I remember this. We discussed it a few times in el...   Feb 2 2006, 08:10 PM
Kristinaa   Points that he stretches with lies. -shuts up abo...   Feb 2 2006, 08:11 PM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 9:11 PM)Points ...   Feb 2 2006, 08:11 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 8:11 PM)-shuts ...   Feb 2 2006, 08:12 PM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   Yen - Oh, no. My school had a lot of lockdowns in ...   Feb 2 2006, 08:15 PM
Smoogrish   This was really scary. I think I was in first grad...   Feb 2 2006, 11:08 PM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   ^Yeah it's scary. It makes me want to console ...   Feb 2 2006, 11:09 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY   I remember that shooting very well. I remember bei...   Feb 2 2006, 11:13 PM
Teesa   Yeah, I was in the fifth grade when it happened. I...   Feb 3 2006, 04:39 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   My school made international headlines, but we did...   Feb 3 2006, 04:51 PM
xnofearx   Damn that Doom Game.   Feb 3 2006, 05:59 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(xnofearx @ Feb 3 2006, 5:59 PM)Damn tha...   Feb 3 2006, 06:00 PM
Programmer   it all halo's fault   Feb 3 2006, 06:00 PM
xnofearx   QUOTE(Programmer @ Feb 3 2006, 6:00 PM)it all...   Feb 3 2006, 11:57 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(Blow_Don't_SUCK @ Feb 2 2006, 7:37 ...   Feb 4 2006, 12:08 AM
Blow_Don't_SUCK   YES   Feb 4 2006, 12:08 AM
liquidize   nahhh i hate the columbine guys and 9/11, because ...   Feb 4 2006, 02:35 AM
yanners   ^ That's because the website you got it from, ...   Apr 4 2006, 06:22 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(yanners @ Apr 4 2006, 7:22 AM) ^ Th...   Apr 4 2006, 04:21 PM
islandkiss   my teachers mentioned that pretty often; they said...   Apr 4 2006, 11:22 AM
SyKoKiNeSiS   Suicide is played out, if your going to die take p...   Apr 4 2006, 03:23 PM
bRoKeNxALoNE   ^That's real deep... I saw that movie and I...   Apr 4 2006, 03:35 PM
twin__cinema   I'm not sure if I ever watched Bowling for Col...   Apr 4 2006, 04:51 PM
sillakilla220   really not a big deal kids get shot all the time i...   Apr 4 2006, 07:31 PM
SyKoKiNeSiS   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 5:31 PM...   Apr 4 2006, 10:05 PM
colleen92   i remember when it happened. i was really young. ...   Apr 4 2006, 07:36 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 7:36 PM) i ...   Apr 4 2006, 08:03 PM
colleen92   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 9:03...   Apr 4 2006, 09:13 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 9:13 PM) sh...   Apr 4 2006, 09:23 PM
colleen92   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 10:2...   Apr 4 2006, 09:28 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 9:28 PM) ho...   Apr 5 2006, 06:24 AM
colleen92   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 5 2006, 7:24...   Apr 5 2006, 02:21 PM
CHiiCKENBUTT   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 6:03...   Apr 8 2006, 02:56 PM
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Libertie   Man.. I remember it, as well. I was in seventh gra...   Apr 4 2006, 10:26 PM
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camerafanny   hey thats my birthday... i turned 8 that day.   Apr 5 2006, 09:45 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   Believe it now motha f**ker! Tonto to jump on...   Apr 7 2006, 01:44 PM
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colleen92   QUOTE(Weird addiction @ Apr 7 2006, 2:49 ...   Apr 8 2006, 09:45 AM
Weird addiction   ...damn...just damn. Soooo...   Apr 7 2006, 01:55 PM
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TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   ^^^what she said. Also, I have lots of respect fo...   Apr 7 2006, 03:44 PM
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tanichick   Oh my gosh.. I remember this... it happened to me ...   Apr 7 2006, 07:04 PM
ROARxD   I've heard of it, and it sort of reminds me of...   Apr 8 2006, 01:26 PM
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happykmd   Yeah, I remember. It happened when I was in 4th gr...   Apr 8 2006, 05:25 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 8 2006, 9:45 AM) i ...   Apr 8 2006, 05:42 PM
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