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birth control/contraception
*tweeak*
post Sep 26 2004, 07:08 PM
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im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?
 
 
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Yemmerz
post Apr 2 2006, 02:23 PM
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With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.

I personally believe that it's not okay to have sex with like 10 different people. If you believe someone you are with is going to be your husband or wife, go for it. But don't go have sex with the neighborhood hottie (lol). So use contraception, get tested for an STD, and use birth control if necessary.
 
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post Apr 8 2006, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Apr 2 2006, 3:23 PM) *
With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.


This is a misunderstanding. I don't know if Catholics believed that sperm were little children, but they don't believe so now. However, scientists in the past have believed that cold air causes disease, among other things. Is this to say we are not to trust science anymore?

Also, this doesn't explain why men are not allowed to masturbate. This is the Catholic teaching on masturbation:

CCC 2352

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By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."



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Tottaly OK. I mean its like you said its really not a matter of "abortion" so your not really sinning. UNLESS your not married but thats a whole other thread wink.gif Moving on i think thats kind of disrespectful on a part of the deacon. unsure.gif Then again i dont enjoy mass very much.....yawn.gif


It is still against Catholic teaching.

CCC 2370

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Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.
 

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tweeak   birth control/contraception   Sep 26 2004, 07:08 PM
inquisitive_   In my opinion, if you're not ready to give bir...   Sep 26 2004, 07:14 PM
swe3ttemptasian   QUOTEIn my opinion, if you're not ready to giv...   Sep 26 2004, 07:29 PM
xHalf nHalf   my thoughts are if you arent ready to have a child...   Sep 26 2004, 07:57 PM
Prometheusx   Our belief is what causes so much indifference in ...   Sep 30 2004, 06:23 PM
Heathasm   that is dumb some people just take birth controls ...   Oct 2 2004, 09:39 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Ladii_D @ Sep 26 2004, 7:14 PM)In my op...   Oct 2 2004, 09:51 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)im cat...   Oct 2 2004, 10:09 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Prometheusx @ Sep 30 2004, 6:23 PM)So y...   Oct 2 2004, 10:10 AM
mony0407   i dont think using birth control is wrong. i'm...   Oct 2 2004, 10:32 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mony0407 @ Oct 2 2004, 10:32 AM)i dont ...   Oct 2 2004, 01:08 PM
AngelicEyz00   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 2 2004, 11:08 AM)why do...   Oct 2 2004, 01:13 PM
rainnydaiis   everyone in life one time has to have sex... no re...   Oct 2 2004, 01:14 PM
JessJR1022   that's wrong.... there is no reason not to use...   Oct 2 2004, 01:17 PM
barelyy_coherent   Um...I think that is absolutely absurd. Like you s...   Oct 3 2004, 02:30 AM
Edele   So, are they telling men not to wear condoms becau...   Oct 5 2004, 02:41 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Oct 2 2004, 1:13 PM)Oh, ...   Oct 5 2004, 03:01 PM
DittotoAnne18   using birth control isnt killing the baby..it was ...   Oct 11 2004, 10:38 AM
melmigs   How would they know if the person uses birth contr...   Oct 11 2004, 01:11 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(melmigs @ Oct 11 2004, 1:11 PM)How woul...   Oct 11 2004, 01:55 PM
kalyps0   Well that is a bit extreme. Especially for women w...   Oct 11 2004, 05:46 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)im cat...   Oct 11 2004, 07:27 PM
tweeak   um, no, the suburbs of atlanta, georgia   Oct 11 2004, 07:52 PM
ComradeRed   Still the deep south. What suburb by any chance? ...   Oct 11 2004, 07:54 PM
th5418   You not used to religion or something? The point o...   Oct 11 2004, 10:11 PM
PinkTrash   =/ birth control pills are also for other things, ...   Oct 11 2004, 11:16 PM
iEnigma   QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)im cat...   Oct 26 2004, 02:16 PM
sammi rules you   i think it's fine. of course, i'm not reli...   Oct 26 2004, 03:41 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)im cat...   Oct 26 2004, 06:30 PM
Weird addiction   i think using contraception is not bad,it helps...   Oct 28 2004, 10:58 AM
x Ragazza   Yeah, I was raised Catholic and I am using birth c...   Mar 23 2006, 10:40 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(x Ragazza @ Mar 23 2006, 10:40 PM) ...   Mar 30 2006, 08:54 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 30 2006, 7:54 PM) I...   Mar 30 2006, 09:03 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Mar 30 2006, 9:03 PM) Ye...   Mar 30 2006, 09:12 PM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 30 2006, 8:12 PM) I...   Mar 30 2006, 09:13 PM
acid_high   I think that if a woman wants to protect her self ...   Mar 29 2006, 10:35 AM
x__Elle.   QUOTE(acid_high @ Mar 29 2006, 10:35 AM) ...   Mar 29 2006, 12:07 PM
gt3k145   about what kyro said if they are 14..... i dont th...   Mar 29 2006, 01:13 PM
Caitlinnn   Birth control/contraception is perfectly fine with...   Mar 29 2006, 04:05 PM
Yemmerz   With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to r...   Apr 2 2006, 02:23 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Apr 2 2006, 3:23 PM) With...   Apr 8 2006, 05:12 PM
swtcherriipie   QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 26 2004, 8:08 PM) im c...   Apr 8 2006, 01:45 PM


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