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Why aren't Muslims speaking out?
radhikaeatsraman
post Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
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I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?
 
 
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post Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
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Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. (Al-Baqarah 2: 190-194)


Clearly, Muslims are not pacifists, and they are willing to wage war in order to ensure the survival of their faith and their people. However, Islam itself is not deliberately militant, either. This passage seems fair (parts of it even reflect the norms of modern diplomacy), but it relies too much on human judgment to decide when violence is appropriate and when it is not. For example, what is "oppression"? What constitutes the end of "tumult and oppression"? When does one "transgress limits"?

Thus, if one judges Islamic militancy by this passage, it's really human judgment that is flawed, not Islam itself. This reliance on human judgment is rather surprising, however, since Islam emphasizes the flawed nature of human beings by asking its followers to submit to the word Allah without question.
 

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zomgznoway   Why aren't Muslims speaking out?   Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   It would be unfair (and quite illogical) to say th...   Feb 19 2006, 08:58 PM
sadolakced acid   do you fault christians who don't speak out ab...   Feb 19 2006, 10:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:5...   Feb 20 2006, 11:59 AM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:24 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 19 2006, 10...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 AM
Endless_Symphony   ^ Islam is a peaceful religion like nearly all the...   Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 20 2006, 10:59 AM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 PM
disco infiltrator   Uh, people who speak out against the terrorist nex...   Feb 20 2006, 05:48 PM
zomgznoway   But if every average Muslim spoke out and banded t...   Feb 20 2006, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   They do speak out. MPAC, MAT, the Free Muslim Coal...   Feb 20 2006, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid   the fact that hamas got elected should say that ye...   Feb 20 2006, 07:59 PM
xnofearx   This is something I have to talk to my girlfriend ...   Feb 21 2006, 07:15 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Feb 23 2006, 5:25 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:05 PM
ComradeRed   It's a collective action problem. The cost to ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM
Im too punk rock for this   good muslims are speaking out people just decide t...   Mar 6 2006, 03:55 PM
kryogenix   First of all, learn to use punctuation. QUOTE(Im ...   Mar 6 2006, 05:42 PM
Im too punk rock for this   My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the rel...   Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006,...   Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
Im too punk rock for this   im sorry i took what u said a little offensively m...   Mar 7 2006, 10:44 PM
Spirited Away   Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalis...   Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 A...   Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 8 2006, 2:22 PM) 1....   Mar 31 2006, 01:00 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 2:00 A...   Apr 2 2006, 10:08 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 1:00 A...   Apr 3 2006, 12:36 AM
swtcherriipie   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Mar 31 2006, 04:12 PM
monde libre   Just a few points. (a) "Islama" means s...   Mar 31 2006, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(monde libre @ Mar 31 2006, 9:07 PM)...   Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   I would think that a lot of Muslims do not support...   Apr 2 2006, 03:06 PM
sillakilla220   i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantas...   Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM...   Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 2 2006, 6:14 PM) Po...   Apr 3 2006, 03:11 AM
mipadi   It would seem that the coalition is responsible fo...   Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 2 2006, 11:12 PM) It w...   Apr 3 2006, 04:39 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTEI wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molest...   Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 6:57 PM...   Apr 5 2006, 11:40 PM
monde libre   Soon, I will be interviewing an imam at Georgetown...   Apr 5 2006, 10:48 PM
monde libre   How does Islam define "unbelievers"? I...   Apr 5 2006, 11:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 6 2006, 12:48 AM)...   Apr 6 2006, 12:07 AM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTESo let's see you justify your claims with...   Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 6 2006, 2:0...   Apr 8 2006, 04:29 PM
monde libre   QUOTEFight in the cause of Allah those who fight y...   Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
monde libre   Don't make me go fallacious on YOU.   Apr 8 2006, 07:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 8 2006, 8:00 PM) ...   Apr 9 2006, 09:29 AM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 10:29 AM) S...   Apr 9 2006, 02:29 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEYou state that if someone refuses to believe ...   Apr 8 2006, 07:56 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   You say I am SillaKilla? Haha. Why just because ...   Apr 9 2006, 02:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 9 2006, 3:4...   Apr 9 2006, 05:39 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 6:39 PM) a)...   Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
monde libre   Since when did this turn into a theological debate...   Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   I didn't challenge his faith. I am just posin...   Apr 9 2006, 03:13 PM
monde libre   I didn't say that he shouldn't point out f...   Apr 9 2006, 03:16 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEI'm sorry, I suppose I'm giving him t...   Apr 9 2006, 06:16 PM


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