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Why aren't Muslims speaking out? |
Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
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I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.
Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it. So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it? |
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Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE So let's see you justify your claims with some kind of source, instead of using the "it's all subjective" arguement. I'm sorry but to me a special report defending Catholic Priests that is done by the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights doesn't prove to be a legitimate source. It may be true that they use numbers, but the data is a little skewed. For example, they do not cite a consistent source throughout the report. They also jump around in years; when talking about teachers they use numbers from 1986 and 1994. Its a nice little essay you dug up but would you really expect a report by the same ppl verifying priests nasty habit? But all of this is besides the point anyways. You are right about teachers not supposed to touch students but who is held in higher esteem? Not all teachers are religious, priests have a very distinct order of living. Teachers shouldn't even be brought into this argument, so you are saying since priests don't molest boys as much as teachers its not so bad? hmm... QUOTE I was putting things in perspective, to correct some of the propaganda you may have heard. I love how you try to twist someone's words against them when it doesn't even make sense. You were putting what into perspective? That according to a Church-related group priests aren't 'as bad' of molesters as teachers? Here's some perspective, if it happens once or twice it could be considered isolated incidents. It's a trend though, which has to lead one to ask what the problem is, there is certainly no mention of touching little boys in the Bible. QUOTE God's laws apply to everyone, believer or unbeliever. As an analogy, pretending the police aren't there doesn't mean the law doesn't apply to you. This is exactly the point I think Silla was trying to prove. God's law TO YOU applies to everyone, even if they don't believe it. But if someone doesn't believe in God then that's their opinion and you should respect it, you can't expect them to follow the laws of a faith they don't follow. I don't mean to bust your bubble but you don't have proof that your God exists. No one does of any religion. It's not like ignoring the police because there is no definitive God. How are you gonna compare God to the police? That's a horrible analogy. I'm not saying that Muslims killing other ppl is right and justified, I'm saying that for you to sit there and condemn another's religion is just ignorant. Especially when every faith has it's faults. |
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zomgznoway Why aren't Muslims speaking out? Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView It would be unfair (and quite illogical) to say th... Feb 19 2006, 08:58 PM
sadolakced acid do you fault christians who don't speak out ab... Feb 19 2006, 10:57 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:5... Feb 20 2006, 11:59 AM
Endless_Symphony QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ... Feb 20 2006, 01:24 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 19 2006, 10... Feb 20 2006, 03:17 AM
Endless_Symphony ^ Islam is a peaceful religion like nearly all the... Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 20 2006, 10:59 AM) ... Feb 20 2006, 03:17 PM
disco infiltrator Uh, people who speak out against the terrorist nex... Feb 20 2006, 05:48 PM
zomgznoway But if every average Muslim spoke out and banded t... Feb 20 2006, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away They do speak out. MPAC, MAT, the Free Muslim Coal... Feb 20 2006, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid the fact that hamas got elected should say that ye... Feb 20 2006, 07:59 PM
xnofearx This is something I have to talk to my girlfriend ... Feb 21 2006, 07:15 AM
ComradeRed QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ... Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Feb 23 2006, 5:25 PM) ... Feb 23 2006, 09:05 PM
ComradeRed It's a collective action problem. The cost to ... Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM
Im too punk rock for this good muslims are speaking out people just decide t... Mar 6 2006, 03:55 PM
kryogenix First of all, learn to use punctuation.
QUOTE(Im ... Mar 6 2006, 05:42 PM
Im too punk rock for this My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the rel... Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006,... Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
Im too punk rock for this im sorry i took what u said a little offensively m... Mar 7 2006, 10:44 PM
Spirited Away Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalis... Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 A... Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 8 2006, 2:22 PM) 1.... Mar 31 2006, 01:00 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 2:00 A... Apr 2 2006, 10:08 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 1:00 A... Apr 3 2006, 12:36 AM
swtcherriipie QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ... Mar 31 2006, 04:12 PM
monde libre Just a few points.
(a) "Islama" means s... Mar 31 2006, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(monde libre @ Mar 31 2006, 9:07 PM)... Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg I would think that a lot of Muslims do not support... Apr 2 2006, 03:06 PM
sillakilla220 i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantas... Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM... Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
sillakilla220 QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 2 2006, 6:14 PM) Po... Apr 3 2006, 03:11 AM
mipadi It would seem that the coalition is responsible fo... Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 2 2006, 11:12 PM) It w... Apr 3 2006, 04:39 PM
sillakilla220 QUOTEI wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molest... Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 6:57 PM... Apr 5 2006, 11:40 PM
monde libre Soon, I will be interviewing an imam at Georgetown... Apr 5 2006, 10:48 PM
monde libre How does Islam define "unbelievers"? I... Apr 5 2006, 11:48 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 6 2006, 12:48 AM)... Apr 6 2006, 12:07 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 6 2006, 2:0... Apr 8 2006, 04:29 PM
monde libre QUOTEFight in the cause of Allah those who fight y... Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
monde libre Don't make me go fallacious on YOU. Apr 8 2006, 07:00 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 8 2006, 8:00 PM) ... Apr 9 2006, 09:29 AM
monde libre QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 10:29 AM) S... Apr 9 2006, 02:29 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND QUOTEYou state that if someone refuses to believe ... Apr 8 2006, 07:56 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND You say I am SillaKilla? Haha. Why just because ... Apr 9 2006, 02:49 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 9 2006, 3:4... Apr 9 2006, 05:39 PM
monde libre QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 6:39 PM) a)... Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
monde libre Since when did this turn into a theological debate... Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND I didn't challenge his faith. I am just posin... Apr 9 2006, 03:13 PM
monde libre I didn't say that he shouldn't point out f... Apr 9 2006, 03:16 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND QUOTEI'm sorry, I suppose I'm giving him t... Apr 9 2006, 06:16 PM![]() ![]() |