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 May 20 2004, 11:38 PM
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 The Return of Sathington Willoughby.  Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724  |
If i'm drafted i'm going to prison. f*ck the war, i'm not going to kill anybody for oil.
"war is old men talking and young men dying." |
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May 23 2004, 03:18 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(PinoyOtaku @ May 23 2004, 3:16 PM) Draft, would straighten things up while knowing that you can die during the process. I'm sure it would do some good on the values of life... Explain how spending two years of your life as a government slave and possibly getting killed would "do some good on the values of life" again? Values of life or no life, it's illegal. NEITHER SLAVERY NOR INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE SHALL EXIST WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ANY PLACE SUBJECT TO THEIR JURISDICTION, EXCEPT AS A PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME WHEREOF THE GUILTY PARTY SHALL HAVE BEEN DULY CONVICTED. -- The United States Constitution, Amendment Thirteen. It's not THAT hard to read. Conscript is unquestionably bad for the war effort, because of morale and logistic problems. Even the Department of Defense agrees. Almost every effort at conscription by a government since 1975 had led to the said government being overthrown. The only two exceptions are Israel and Greece. Greece was saved from being overthrown only by massive American intervention (attempted Communist uprising damn nearly succeeded in the late 70s) and Israel is in a state of permanent warfare. Some famous examples of conscription: France: Invoking a feudal law, the King of France tries to draft citizens of Calais in the 1300s. The citizens appeal to the King of England, who invades France. War ravages France for the next 114 years. United States: Conscription declares in 1863 to fight the civil war. Hundreds die in the riots that ensue. Lincoln is forced to cut conscription quotas by 50%. Russia: Conscritpion begins in 1914. Three years later, conscripts organize several simultaenous uprisings. The conscript-manned Russian navy defects, the government is overthrown, and the Czar Nicholas II is executed by his own people. China: Mao declares conscription "in case of emergency" (possible American invasion of China after winning Vietnam): 1969. Government overthrown in a bloody two-year coup: 1977-78. |
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strice Draft or Prison? May 20 2004, 11:38 PM
EmeraldKnight Whats the prison sentence for refusing a draft? May 20 2004, 11:45 PM strice 2-3 years, normally. May 20 2004, 11:52 PM EmeraldKnight Hm.. maybe I'd go and study abroad.. like at O... May 20 2004, 11:53 PM strice vote you bastards!
unfortunately we can... May 21 2004, 12:03 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEvote you bastards!
that kind of lan... May 21 2004, 12:06 AM strice according to my friend whose father is a lawyer sa... May 21 2004, 12:09 AM EmeraldKnight blech
i'm not caught up on politics at all..... May 21 2004, 12:10 AM kryogenix QUOTE(strice @ May 20 2004, 11:38 PM)If i... May 21 2004, 05:50 AM stryker76 IF i was drafted i would go...but after Nam..the d... May 21 2004, 05:55 AM tkproduce No way am I going to war. May 21 2004, 05:55 AM TBoltzbabe if my boyfriend got drafted i'd cry and i woul... May 21 2004, 07:44 AM WildGriffin I'm against war and all that, but if you live ... May 21 2004, 11:16 AM immersion31 i would go to war May 21 2004, 12:37 PM cornflakes Since the 80s they have not sent a person to priso... May 21 2004, 01:01 PM Kathleen I would definitely fight for my country...I've... May 21 2004, 04:22 PM onenonly101 You sure would NOT see me fighting. I would be in ... May 21 2004, 06:03 PM stryker76 I find it interestin that although many people are... May 21 2004, 07:13 PM strice heres the article. and if i really had to join the... May 21 2004, 07:19 PM angel-roh QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 21 2004, 2:22 PM)I would... May 22 2004, 06:47 AM craziplaya21 neither, ill go 2 canada May 22 2004, 11:17 AM ComradeRed QUOTE(strice @ May 20 2004, 11:38 PM)If i... May 22 2004, 04:19 PM EmeraldKnight Thank you Minda May 22 2004, 04:20 PM ComradeRed I read an article in the Congress Digest on the Dr... May 22 2004, 04:34 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEI read an article in the Congress Digest on t... May 22 2004, 04:36 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:36 PM)Da... May 22 2004, 04:40 PM EmeraldKnight Wow.. you're like a political encyclopedia we... May 22 2004, 04:44 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:44 PM)Wo... May 22 2004, 08:20 PM WildGriffin QUOTEDanke.
What is it with you and german? May 22 2004, 09:45 PM EmeraldKnight German's funny Mark Twain convinced me May 22 2004, 09:49 PM machinoman i would go to the draft. i wouldnt like it though.... May 22 2004, 10:37 PM ryfitaDF i'm not dying for the government. this war is ... May 23 2004, 02:41 AM flyin_HAWAiiAN do girls get drafted too?
if so i would go to war... May 23 2004, 03:03 AM strice yes, the girls can get drafted too. May 23 2004, 03:06 AM machinoman no May 23 2004, 12:28 PM strice QUOTEto provide for the common defense by requirin... May 23 2004, 02:28 PM stryker76 "War is Old Men Lyin and Young Men Dyin" May 23 2004, 02:32 PM ComradeRed In draft news, recently has been the first time a ... May 23 2004, 02:35 PM Kathleen That's too bad I'm not eighteen yet. May 23 2004, 03:10 PM PinoyOtaku Draft, would straighten things up while knowing th... May 23 2004, 03:16 PM Kathleen Eh you're quite resistant, aren't you, Min... May 23 2004, 03:24 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEEh you're quite resistant, aren't you... May 23 2004, 03:45 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 23 2004, 3:45 PM)Bu... May 23 2004, 04:37 PM Mr. Psychotic i would go fight for this country even though some... Jun 6 2004, 04:44 PM ComradeRed I would bury you. Jun 6 2004, 05:01 PM Mr. Psychotic QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 6 2004, 5:01 PM)I woul... Jun 6 2004, 05:03 PM ComradeRed Haha, it's a reference to:
"We will bury... Jun 6 2004, 05:05 PM Yemmerz I'd go into draft, to protect the ones I love ... Jun 7 2004, 03:46 PM ComradeRed If you get drafted, you don't have teh choice ... Jun 7 2004, 03:50 PM Viggen Forgot one more option: Relocate to Canada. Jun 7 2004, 03:51 PM Yemmerz you cant do that anymore. it's illegal. Jun 7 2004, 04:01 PM ComradeRed It was always illegal...
But if you're in ano... Jun 7 2004, 04:05 PM sadolakced acid if draft everyone, i will go. it they leave out t... Jun 17 2004, 02:38 PM juliar I'm a woman. I wouldnt be drafted.
But if I we... Jun 17 2004, 09:53 PM CrimsonArchangel Being a girl, I really don't think I have a sa... Jun 17 2004, 10:00 PM DavidxN lol you'd actually choose prison over the draf... Jun 18 2004, 01:08 AM strice i refuse the draft because i want nothing to do wi... Jun 18 2004, 02:37 AM CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(DavidxN @ Jun 18 2004, 1:08 AM)it sucks... Jun 18 2004, 08:16 AM Yemmerz QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 17 2004, 3:38 PM)... Jun 18 2004, 08:30 AM kryogenix QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 18 2004, 8:30 AM)Of cours... Jun 18 2004, 10:16 AM hybrid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 18 2004, 11:16 AM)then ... Jun 18 2004, 10:33 AM sadolakced acid why prision?
i like in the US. there is very lit... Jun 18 2004, 12:38 PM JlIaTMK yea id definetly go to prison.... i wouldnt be abl... Jun 18 2004, 08:58 PM bigpoppaproppy drafted for iraq? id tell the president where he ... Jul 2 2004, 02:37 AM ComradeRed I'd go, organize a revolt, and overthrow the g... Jul 2 2004, 11:36 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEI'd go, organize a revolt, and overthrow ... Jul 2 2004, 11:35 PM ComradeRed 1) During Vietnam, most soldiers were volunteers. ... Jul 3 2004, 09:44 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEIf Bush were stupid enough to reinstate the d... Jul 3 2004, 10:30 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 10:30 PM)Bu... Jul 3 2004, 10:33 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEa) Bush isn't going to win anyway, for re... Jul 3 2004, 10:45 PM ComradeRed Kerry supports "Mandatory National Service... Jul 3 2004, 10:47 PM EmeraldKnight Bleh.. neither political candidate seems favorable... Jul 3 2004, 10:53 PM ComradeRed I support John Kerry, BECAUSE the Republicans will... Jul 3 2004, 10:59 PM EmeraldKnight Wow.. a lot of info there...
QUOTEThe COG comes i... Jul 3 2004, 11:06 PM ComradeRed Yes.
QUOTE("The Constitution Society")T... Jul 3 2004, 11:09 PM EmeraldKnight Wow... I'll get around to reading that.. somed... Jul 3 2004, 11:11 PM ComradeRed Senate Report 93-549, written in 1973, said ... Jul 3 2004, 11:12 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTE"Under the powers delegated by these sta... Jul 4 2004, 01:19 AM ComradeRed Of course it is. And since the War on Drugs and th... Jul 4 2004, 10:10 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEOf course it is. And since the War on Drugs a... Jul 4 2004, 09:28 PM ComradeRed Yes... that's why he could invade Iraq first, ... Jul 4 2004, 11:27 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEYes... that's why he could invade Iraq fi... Jul 4 2004, 11:47 PM ComradeRed They don't exist any more. We can see some of ... Jul 4 2004, 11:49 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEThey don't exist any more. We can see som... Jul 4 2004, 11:54 PM ComradeRed The right thing to do, in my opinion, would be to ... Jul 5 2004, 05:30 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEThe right thing to do, in my opinion, would b... Jul 5 2004, 09:27 PM aud_chua i'd rather go to prison.. at least they feed y... Aug 2 2004, 02:18 PM ComradeRed Uh... they feed you in the army too... And yes, yo... Aug 2 2004, 02:20 PM Dar|< I would kill for free....There is never any real c... Aug 2 2004, 02:22 PM sadolakced acid killing innocents?
that's what you'd be... Aug 2 2004, 04:05 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEkilling innocents?
that's what you... Aug 2 2004, 04:43 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Aug 2 2004, 4:43 PM)Whe... Aug 2 2004, 05:17 PM
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