Why aren't Muslims speaking out? Options

[radhikaeatsraman]

I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?

[*mipadi*]

It would seem that the coalition is responsible for more than 23 civilian deaths.[1]

[*kryogenix*]

It would seem that the coalition is responsible for more than 23 civilian deaths.[1]

The statstic I stated was the number of civilians killed colaterally by US forces this year. Not for the duration of the war. Not from the entire coalition.

Even if you use the number that some of these groups are putting out, they still show that the Iraqi insurgency is doing most of the killing.

i dont need a legitimate source to back my claims its just common sense, logic and a grip on reality that leads me to my conclusion. i kno u won't take it as a sufficient answer but it is wat it is. i don't need some stupid f**kin online web-site to tell me that US soldiers have killed more than 23 civilians this year. im not condemning US soldiers, or saying that we are evil for doing it, but if u believe that we aren't killing our fair portion of innocent ppl then u should wake up.

your pathetic attempt to insult my observation on arguments that were going nowhere on an extremely subjective topic in another thread has nothing to do with this argument, quite futile really

Learn how to argue. You can't argue without facts to base your arguement on. If you try to argue without any concrete facts, people will just laugh at you.

see yur ready to break out the history book on this one and i dont feel like looking up every single point like u are prolly doin just to prove u wrong. Muslims may not be the most peaceful religion but thats their choice. not every faith will be perfect, the protestant reformation was started over the rampant corruption takin place in the catholic church, not to mention the church's dirty little not-so-secret-anymore secret of the disgusting relationship alot of priests have had w/ their choirboys

Just because it's their choice doesn't make it right. The Protestant Reformation (which wasn't really a reformation at all, as much as it was a schism, but I digress) changed things for the worse, not for the better. But this isn't the topic for it, so search for my "Questions for Protestants" topic if you'd like to continue arguing the matter.

And yes, the Church has had its share of scandal. But it's clearly been blown way out of proportion. I wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molesting priests is lower than the ratio of molesting teachers, yet people are calling for death to the Catholic Church, but not to education. Weird, huh?

We've even had some terrible Popes in the past. Pope Alexander VI was a really, really bad Pope. He had a bunch of children, among other crazy things. But for some reason, he made no ex cathedra statements that harmed Catholic Doctrine.

The important thing to take out of this is that none of this is in Catholic Doctrine. There is no "Thou shall molest" commandment. However, the Koran states: Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war. Sura 9:5

im not saying christianity is directly responsible for hitler and the KKK but the same can be said for islam and terrorists. u find it ridiculous to associate the religion of kkk members or hitler w/ their heinous actions, yet just b/c terrorists follow islam and claim religious reasons its their faith. i suppose u havent heard of religious extremists?

Hitler didn't kill because his religion (or lack thereof) told him to. He killed because he was a maniac. Similarly for the KKK, they didn't do what they did because their religion told them to.

However, Islamic extermists are using using that quote as an excuse to kill people. We have Muslim clerics who have said that the only way to peace is for the world to accept Muslim rule. Why are these people leaders of a supposedly peaceful religion?