Why aren't Muslims speaking out? Options

[radhikaeatsraman]

I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?

[sillakilla220]

i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantasy-bubble, but american soldiers have killed way more than 23 civilians. all i can say about that site is it is a straight up lie and propaganda that has obviously worked its purpose on u. how could we only kill 23 civilians when we were initially bombing whole f**kin cities?

a person that holds a sword up to your throat and threatens to kill you if you don't convert?

ahhh u must be talkin about the indians and africans deemed savages who the white man had to save by converting them to chrisitanity, otherwise killin them?






well i wont pick u apart piece by piece but overall it seems u are pretty defensive of chrisitanity. this is fine, only it seems u dont really have a strong grasp of history. christians have had their share of slaughtering ppl just as muslims have and so on... islam gets a bad rap for spawning terrorists n wat not but christianity has spawned such violence as the KKK and hitler it just depends how u look at it

[*kryogenix*]

i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantasy-bubble, but american soldiers have killed way more than 23 civilians. all i can say about that site is it is a straight up lie and propaganda that has obviously worked its purpose on u. how could we only kill 23 civilians when we were initially bombing whole f**kin cities?

Post a legitimate source and I'll admit I made a mistake. I think you're misreading what I'm saying. What I said was this year, US forces are responsible for 23 civilian casualties. A lot of what you are probably reading says "after the US invasion, x amount of civilian deaths occured" when the majority of the deaths were caused by insurgents.

Back up your arguement with facts, or is this one of those subjective topics that can't be backed up?

ahhh u must be talkin about the indians and africans deemed savages who the white man had to save by converting them to chrisitanity, otherwise killin them?
well i wont pick u apart piece by piece but overall it seems u are pretty defensive of chrisitanity. this is fine, only it seems u dont really have a strong grasp of history. christians have had their share of slaughtering ppl just as muslims have and so on... islam gets a bad rap for spawning terrorists n wat not but christianity has spawned such violence as the KKK and hitler it just depends how u look at it

How about YOU learn your history? Christianity was brought to Egypt by Mark (one of Jesus' disciples) in 60 AD. The king of Ethiopa made Christianity the official religion of the Ethiopian Empire. It was initially introduced by the Portuguese and he embraced it. Remember, this was even before the Roman Empire became Christian, so the Christians were being persecuted themselves. It wouldn't have been wise for them to be starting wars. In fact, Christianity was doing just fine for several centuries until the Muslims started conquering North Africa. Much, much later on, the White Man™ came in and started converting using force, but how much of this was connected to the Catholic Church (which is the Christianity that I'm defending).

And ROFL at saying Christianity spawned KKK and Hitler. The KKK persecuted Catholics. Let's see you explain how Christianity spawned Hitler. Just because Hitler was baptized Catholic (but not practicing) doesn't mean it's part of Catholic doctrine to do what he did. However, it's written in the Koran to slay the infidels.

OMG WHATEVER PROPAGANDA THAT YOU LISTENED TO OBVIOUSLY WORKED. STOP LISTENING TO STRAIGHT UP LIES OMG!

[sillakilla220]

Post a legitimate source and I'll admit I made a mistake. I think you're misreading what I'm saying. What I said was this year, US forces are responsible for 23 civilian casualties. A lot of what you are probably reading says "after the US invasion, x amount of civilian deaths occured" when the majority of the deaths were caused by insurgents.

Back up your arguement with facts, or is this one of those subjective topics that can't be backed up?
How about YOU learn your history? Christianity was brought to Egypt by Mark (one of Jesus' disciples) in 60 AD. The king of Ethiopa made Christianity the official religion of the Ethiopian Empire. It was initially introduced by the Portuguese and he embraced it. Remember, this was even before the Roman Empire became Christian, so the Christians were being persecuted themselves. It wouldn't have been wise for them to be starting wars. In fact, Christianity was doing just fine for several centuries until the Muslims started conquering North Africa. Much, much later on, the White Man™ came in and started converting using force, but how much of this was connected to the Catholic Church (which is the Christianity that I'm defending).

And ROFL at saying Christianity spawned KKK and Hitler. The KKK persecuted Catholics. Let's see you explain how Christianity spawned Hitler. Just because Hitler was baptized Catholic (but not practicing) doesn't mean it's part of Catholic doctrine to do what he did. However, it's written in the Koran to slay the infidels.

OMG WHATEVER PROPAGANDA THAT YOU LISTENED TO OBVIOUSLY WORKED. STOP LISTENING TO STRAIGHT UP LIES OMG!

i dont need a legitimate source to back my claims its just common sense, logic and a grip on reality that leads me to my conclusion. i kno u won't take it as a sufficient answer but it is wat it is. i don't need some stupid f**kin online web-site to tell me that US soldiers have killed more than 23 civilians this year. im not condemning US soldiers, or saying that we are evil for doing it, but if u believe that we aren't killing our fair portion of innocent ppl then u should wake up.


your pathetic attempt to insult my observation on arguments that were going nowhere on an extremely subjective topic in another thread has nothing to do with this argument, quite futile really


i see yur ready to break out the history book on this one and i dont feel like looking up every single point like u are prolly doin just to prove u wrong. Muslims may not be the most peaceful religion but thats their choice. not every faith will be perfect, the protestant reformation was started over the rampant corruption takin place in the catholic church, not to mention the church's dirty little not-so-secret-anymore secret of the disgusting relationship alot of priests have had w/ their choirboys



im not saying christianity is directly responsible for hitler and the KKK but the same can be said for islam and terrorists. u find it ridiculous to associate the religion of kkk members or hitler w/ their heinous actions, yet just b/c terrorists follow islam and claim religious reasons its their faith. i suppose u havent heard of religious extremists?