Log In · Register

 

Debate Rules

Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.

Debate.

Why aren't Muslims speaking out?
radhikaeatsraman
post Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
Post #1


oooh yeah.
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,333
Joined: Feb 2006
Member No: 376,533



I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?
 
 
Start new topic
Replies
sillakilla220
post Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
Post #2


Senior Member
****

Group: Member
Posts: 277
Joined: Feb 2006
Member No: 381,654



i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantasy-bubble, but american soldiers have killed way more than 23 civilians. all i can say about that site is it is a straight up lie and propaganda that has obviously worked its purpose on u. how could we only kill 23 civilians when we were initially bombing whole f**kin cities?




QUOTE
a person that holds a sword up to your throat and threatens to kill you if you don't convert?



ahhh u must be talkin about the indians and africans deemed savages who the white man had to save by converting them to chrisitanity, otherwise killin them?






well i wont pick u apart piece by piece but overall it seems u are pretty defensive of chrisitanity. this is fine, only it seems u dont really have a strong grasp of history. christians have had their share of slaughtering ppl just as muslims have and so on... islam gets a bad rap for spawning terrorists n wat not but christianity has spawned such violence as the KKK and hitler it just depends how u look at it
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
Post #3





Guest






QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM) *
i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantasy-bubble, but american soldiers have killed way more than 23 civilians. all i can say about that site is it is a straight up lie and propaganda that has obviously worked its purpose on u. how could we only kill 23 civilians when we were initially bombing whole f**kin cities?


Post a legitimate source and I'll admit I made a mistake. I think you're misreading what I'm saying. What I said was this year, US forces are responsible for 23 civilian casualties. A lot of what you are probably reading says "after the US invasion, x amount of civilian deaths occured" when the majority of the deaths were caused by insurgents.

Back up your arguement with facts, or is this one of those subjective topics that can't be backed up?

QUOTE
ahhh u must be talkin about the indians and africans deemed savages who the white man had to save by converting them to chrisitanity, otherwise killin them?
well i wont pick u apart piece by piece but overall it seems u are pretty defensive of chrisitanity. this is fine, only it seems u dont really have a strong grasp of history. christians have had their share of slaughtering ppl just as muslims have and so on... islam gets a bad rap for spawning terrorists n wat not but christianity has spawned such violence as the KKK and hitler it just depends how u look at it


How about YOU learn your history? Christianity was brought to Egypt by Mark (one of Jesus' disciples) in 60 AD. The king of Ethiopa made Christianity the official religion of the Ethiopian Empire. It was initially introduced by the Portuguese and he embraced it. Remember, this was even before the Roman Empire became Christian, so the Christians were being persecuted themselves. It wouldn't have been wise for them to be starting wars. In fact, Christianity was doing just fine for several centuries until the Muslims started conquering North Africa. Much, much later on, the White Man™ came in and started converting using force, but how much of this was connected to the Catholic Church (which is the Christianity that I'm defending).

And ROFL at saying Christianity spawned KKK and Hitler. The KKK persecuted Catholics. Let's see you explain how Christianity spawned Hitler. Just because Hitler was baptized Catholic (but not practicing) doesn't mean it's part of Catholic doctrine to do what he did. However, it's written in the Koran to slay the infidels.

OMG WHATEVER PROPAGANDA THAT YOU LISTENED TO OBVIOUSLY WORKED. STOP LISTENING TO STRAIGHT UP LIES OMG!
 

Posts in this topic
zomgznoway   Why aren't Muslims speaking out?   Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   It would be unfair (and quite illogical) to say th...   Feb 19 2006, 08:58 PM
sadolakced acid   do you fault christians who don't speak out ab...   Feb 19 2006, 10:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:5...   Feb 20 2006, 11:59 AM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:24 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 19 2006, 10...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 AM
Endless_Symphony   ^ Islam is a peaceful religion like nearly all the...   Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 20 2006, 10:59 AM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 PM
disco infiltrator   Uh, people who speak out against the terrorist nex...   Feb 20 2006, 05:48 PM
zomgznoway   But if every average Muslim spoke out and banded t...   Feb 20 2006, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   They do speak out. MPAC, MAT, the Free Muslim Coal...   Feb 20 2006, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid   the fact that hamas got elected should say that ye...   Feb 20 2006, 07:59 PM
xnofearx   This is something I have to talk to my girlfriend ...   Feb 21 2006, 07:15 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Feb 23 2006, 5:25 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:05 PM
ComradeRed   It's a collective action problem. The cost to ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM
Im too punk rock for this   good muslims are speaking out people just decide t...   Mar 6 2006, 03:55 PM
kryogenix   First of all, learn to use punctuation. QUOTE(Im ...   Mar 6 2006, 05:42 PM
Im too punk rock for this   My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the rel...   Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006,...   Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
Im too punk rock for this   im sorry i took what u said a little offensively m...   Mar 7 2006, 10:44 PM
Spirited Away   Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalis...   Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 A...   Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 8 2006, 2:22 PM) 1....   Mar 31 2006, 01:00 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 2:00 A...   Apr 2 2006, 10:08 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 1:00 A...   Apr 3 2006, 12:36 AM
swtcherriipie   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Mar 31 2006, 04:12 PM
monde libre   Just a few points. (a) "Islama" means s...   Mar 31 2006, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(monde libre @ Mar 31 2006, 9:07 PM)...   Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   I would think that a lot of Muslims do not support...   Apr 2 2006, 03:06 PM
sillakilla220   i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantas...   Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM...   Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 2 2006, 6:14 PM) Po...   Apr 3 2006, 03:11 AM
mipadi   It would seem that the coalition is responsible fo...   Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 2 2006, 11:12 PM) It w...   Apr 3 2006, 04:39 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTEI wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molest...   Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 6:57 PM...   Apr 5 2006, 11:40 PM
monde libre   Soon, I will be interviewing an imam at Georgetown...   Apr 5 2006, 10:48 PM
monde libre   How does Islam define "unbelievers"? I...   Apr 5 2006, 11:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 6 2006, 12:48 AM)...   Apr 6 2006, 12:07 AM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTESo let's see you justify your claims with...   Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 6 2006, 2:0...   Apr 8 2006, 04:29 PM
monde libre   QUOTEFight in the cause of Allah those who fight y...   Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
monde libre   Don't make me go fallacious on YOU.   Apr 8 2006, 07:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 8 2006, 8:00 PM) ...   Apr 9 2006, 09:29 AM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 10:29 AM) S...   Apr 9 2006, 02:29 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEYou state that if someone refuses to believe ...   Apr 8 2006, 07:56 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   You say I am SillaKilla? Haha. Why just because ...   Apr 9 2006, 02:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 9 2006, 3:4...   Apr 9 2006, 05:39 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 6:39 PM) a)...   Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
monde libre   Since when did this turn into a theological debate...   Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   I didn't challenge his faith. I am just posin...   Apr 9 2006, 03:13 PM
monde libre   I didn't say that he shouldn't point out f...   Apr 9 2006, 03:16 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEI'm sorry, I suppose I'm giving him t...   Apr 9 2006, 06:16 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: