La pregunta para ateos., (question for atheists) |
La pregunta para ateos., (question for atheists) |
Mar 7 2006, 09:42 PM
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'Kay, so this is how people (usually) come to find atheism. (In a nutshell.) They question their belief in their god and their religion, they do a little research, badabing badaboom, they're nonbelievers. (Yes, I know I'm being horribly inaccurate here, but just go with me.)
As an atheist being raised in a fairly religious family, I find myself questioning my atheism sometimes, the same way a believer may question their faith. I know that atheism is not a faith, but sometimes I wonder if faith could be right and atheism could be wrong. Discuss? Feel free to move this to Debate if you like. |
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| *RiC3xBoy* |
Mar 9 2006, 11:26 PM
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How flexible is religion? Can one's definition of what Catholicism be different from another? If so, wouldn't the belief that one religion means dot dot dot be a religion in itself. Thought about it for awhile, could not really get a good answer to it.
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Mar 10 2006, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE That's why I said, you gotta have faith. What if two people have faith in contradicting ideas? Both ideas cannot be the truth. Moral relativism doesn't make sense at all. Saying that there is no moral truth implies that it would be a lie to say that there is a moral truth. See the contradiction? Choosing morality is not like choosing your favorite color. How flexible is religion? Can one's definition of what Catholicism be different from another? If so, wouldn't the belief that one religion means dot dot dot be a religion in itself. Thought about it for awhile, could not really get a good answer to it. No. If your beliefs don't line up with the Catholic Catechism, your beliefs are not Catholic beliefs. |
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Mar 12 2006, 06:08 AM
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Moral relativism doesn't make sense at all. Saying that there is no moral truth implies that it would be a lie to say that there is a moral truth. See the contradiction? Choosing morality is not like choosing your favorite color. Actually, it does make sense. Perfect sense. I strongly believe that Morality is subjective just for the simple fact that it exists dependent of the intellectual observer. X is not bad, we only think it to be bad. And, since I don't believe in a God, I do not believe in a divine and objective moral code. Your example of a contradiction is awful. The problem is that you are imposing your own moral conceptions of what a lie is. You are pretty much trying to pove that there is moral truth, by using a premise that relies on moral truth. It's circular reasoning. A lie is neither "right" nor "wrong." A lie is simply the act of making an untrue statement. You believe, as a moral truth, that making untrue statements is immoral, not everyone believes this. And clearly, a moral relativist would say that there is no absolute moral truth. If there truly were no moral truth, I suppose it would be a lie to say that there is. But, that doesn't demonstrate, in anyway, a contradiction in the theory, especially given that you provide the fact of no moral truth as a premise. |
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