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Why aren't Muslims speaking out?
radhikaeatsraman
post Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
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I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
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Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalism is, and Islamic fundamentalism combined with extermist Arabs... well, you all know well the consequence. Interpretation of the holy text, depending on political ideals or the lack thereof and culture, is the main cleavage.

Islam "[tries] to conquer" other religions as much as Christianity tried, and is still trying, to conquer. These two religions' history of intolerance and tolerance is almost similar. Muslims practice belief in human justice, love and freedom as much as Christianity and Judaism. Again, we mustn't confused them with fundamentalists or else, to be fair, we'd have to mix Christians with radical Christians.

The question of why Muslims aren't speaking out enough reminds me of something and the point is to compare the questions of the why's. After 9/11, there was a wave of violence against Muslims and Arabs throughout the US. President Bush made a point that these attacks are inhumane. Of course, many Americans find these attacks to be wrongful as well, but why didn't they speak out enough?

For the record, I don't know how much is "enough" or how much a few of you expect these Muslims to speak out, but I do agree that they do need to sound their intolerance of extremist Islam a little louder. In my opinion, ONLY THE MEDIA can aid them in this. And then the question is, why don't they complain about the media not broadcasting enough. My answer: how loudly do they need to complain about the media to get coverage?
 
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post Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM) *
Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalism is, and Islamic fundamentalism combined with extermist Arabs... well, you all know well the consequence. Interpretation of the holy text, depending on political ideals or the lack thereof and culture, is the main cleavage.


I'd like to believe this, but at the moment, I'm not sure.

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Islam "[tries] to conquer" other religions as much as Christianity tried, and is still trying, to conquer. These two religions' history of intolerance and tolerance is almost similar. Muslims practice belief in human justice, love and freedom as much as Christianity and Judaism. Again, we mustn't confused them with fundamentalists or else, to be fair, we'd have to mix Christians with radical Christians.


Remember, Islam started out with nothing. They had to conquer Mecca to get started. Christianity was an underground group for the most part until the Roman Empire embraced it.

Maybe you are referring to the crusades as evidence of Christian conquering. I don't agree with killing in the name of God, but to say that the Christians were barbaric attackers is misleading.

Outside of the crusades, how much of Christian conquering was religiously motivated rather than nationalistically motivated?

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The question of why Muslims aren't speaking out enough reminds me of something and the point is to compare the questions of the why's. After 9/11, there was a wave of violence against Muslims and Arabs throughout the US. President Bush made a point that these attacks are inhumane. Of course, many Americans find these attacks to be wrongful as well, but why didn't they speak out enough?


People did speak out. If I remember correctly, Rudy came on the TV and addressed the issue and told people not to beat up random arab people on the street.

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For the record, I don't know how much is "enough" or how much a few of you expect these Muslims to speak out, but I do agree that they do need to sound their intolerance of extremist Islam a little louder. In my opinion, ONLY THE MEDIA can aid them in this. And then the question is, why don't they complain about the media not broadcasting enough. My answer: how loudly do they need to complain about the media to get coverage?


I would think that Al Jazeera would want to help the peaceful Muslims get their voice heard, but I haven't heard anything about them yet. In fact, some of what Al Jazeera runs is what sparks violence in the first place.

How come Muslims can gather millions to protest against Israel, but they can't protest the violence on part of fellow Muslims?

Not only this, but why aren't peaceful Muslims reaching out to the violent ones and telling them they are interpreting the Quran incorrectly?
 

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zomgznoway   Why aren't Muslims speaking out?   Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   It would be unfair (and quite illogical) to say th...   Feb 19 2006, 08:58 PM
sadolakced acid   do you fault christians who don't speak out ab...   Feb 19 2006, 10:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:5...   Feb 20 2006, 11:59 AM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:24 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 19 2006, 10...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 AM
Endless_Symphony   ^ Islam is a peaceful religion like nearly all the...   Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 20 2006, 10:59 AM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 PM
disco infiltrator   Uh, people who speak out against the terrorist nex...   Feb 20 2006, 05:48 PM
zomgznoway   But if every average Muslim spoke out and banded t...   Feb 20 2006, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   They do speak out. MPAC, MAT, the Free Muslim Coal...   Feb 20 2006, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid   the fact that hamas got elected should say that ye...   Feb 20 2006, 07:59 PM
xnofearx   This is something I have to talk to my girlfriend ...   Feb 21 2006, 07:15 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Feb 23 2006, 5:25 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:05 PM
ComradeRed   It's a collective action problem. The cost to ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM
Im too punk rock for this   good muslims are speaking out people just decide t...   Mar 6 2006, 03:55 PM
kryogenix   First of all, learn to use punctuation. QUOTE(Im ...   Mar 6 2006, 05:42 PM
Im too punk rock for this   My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the rel...   Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006,...   Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
Im too punk rock for this   im sorry i took what u said a little offensively m...   Mar 7 2006, 10:44 PM
Spirited Away   Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalis...   Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 A...   Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 8 2006, 2:22 PM) 1....   Mar 31 2006, 01:00 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 2:00 A...   Apr 2 2006, 10:08 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 1:00 A...   Apr 3 2006, 12:36 AM
swtcherriipie   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Mar 31 2006, 04:12 PM
monde libre   Just a few points. (a) "Islama" means s...   Mar 31 2006, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(monde libre @ Mar 31 2006, 9:07 PM)...   Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   I would think that a lot of Muslims do not support...   Apr 2 2006, 03:06 PM
sillakilla220   i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantas...   Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM...   Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 2 2006, 6:14 PM) Po...   Apr 3 2006, 03:11 AM
mipadi   It would seem that the coalition is responsible fo...   Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 2 2006, 11:12 PM) It w...   Apr 3 2006, 04:39 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTEI wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molest...   Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 6:57 PM...   Apr 5 2006, 11:40 PM
monde libre   Soon, I will be interviewing an imam at Georgetown...   Apr 5 2006, 10:48 PM
monde libre   How does Islam define "unbelievers"? I...   Apr 5 2006, 11:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 6 2006, 12:48 AM)...   Apr 6 2006, 12:07 AM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTESo let's see you justify your claims with...   Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 6 2006, 2:0...   Apr 8 2006, 04:29 PM
monde libre   QUOTEFight in the cause of Allah those who fight y...   Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
monde libre   Don't make me go fallacious on YOU.   Apr 8 2006, 07:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 8 2006, 8:00 PM) ...   Apr 9 2006, 09:29 AM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 10:29 AM) S...   Apr 9 2006, 02:29 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEYou state that if someone refuses to believe ...   Apr 8 2006, 07:56 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   You say I am SillaKilla? Haha. Why just because ...   Apr 9 2006, 02:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 9 2006, 3:4...   Apr 9 2006, 05:39 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 6:39 PM) a)...   Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
monde libre   Since when did this turn into a theological debate...   Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   I didn't challenge his faith. I am just posin...   Apr 9 2006, 03:13 PM
monde libre   I didn't say that he shouldn't point out f...   Apr 9 2006, 03:16 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEI'm sorry, I suppose I'm giving him t...   Apr 9 2006, 06:16 PM


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